4Zero9Zero

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Its so unlikely though, the game itself is not really tracking anything and in that path, she's still with a partner - essentially other than a harmless bit of flirting here and there there's nothing there between the two of them. Youre are either the hot guy Jill knocked back or a hot guy who throws cool parties - neither of which are probably big enough for her to think about cheating on her man
On the Jill dump route she might feel bad and give MC a pity fuck :BootyTime:
 

Lagunavii

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As a counterpoint, one could argue that if a little bit of flirting on a snowbike is enough to enable her to go further, then it's also perfectly possible that you could still get on her path in ep.12 or even later, without that bit but doing more flirting later. You'll just miss out on some early optional interactions. Not unlike you aren't required to "catch them all" early flirt/sex scenes with other girls to get on their "route" down the road.

Also, Bianca having a boyfriend isn't really a show stopper for her. If anything, it adds to the whole "we're being bad" vibe that spurs her on.
I guess it's possible, but unlikely as, as I've said the games not tracking anything outside of the Bella/Jill path but that could change. But a lot happened on that trip than them just dry humping on a snowmobile. I mean she does go on to say she thought about him when masturbating. is that just because she's seen his cock or is it because she's seen him in a spartan costume?

Honestly I know its nice to think hey we might get on this path an other way... but the code doesn't suggest there will be.
 

f96zonetrooper

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Thats fair enough and I shall grant you that... but there's still the issue that when it comes to bianca the following is applied

if (branchJill or branchIsabella) and (ep11_bianca_dick > 0 or ep11_bianca_flirt)

The Jill and Isabllea branch speak for themselves, The Bianca Dick comes from the hot tub depending on what you do when she on your lap the Bianca Flirt comes from the sitting on the bike thing... both on the Ski trip

In regards to the Bowl Mission and the Cucumber game, yeah the game doesn't really track anything there. It obviously tracks that you did it with Bianca, so it knows where to point, but it does with Heather, Zoey etc etc etc

The fact remains on any other path but Jill or Bellas yeah, you may do a bit of harmless flirting here and there, and yeah she may think you're hot. But ultimately, she is a girl with a boyfriend and you are really nothing to her... there's nothing there
I think only on Jill path you can tell Bianca that Matthew is cheating :
"I told Bianca that Matthew was cheating on her with Olivia."

After that she considers herself as "single" but feels guilty when flirting with mc since they are cheating on Jill.

The hot tub scene can only happen on Jill's path when Bianca tries to place herself between mc and Jill. The scene is different on Bella's path.
 

4Zero9Zero

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I'm assuming you have a script for episode 12? Everyone thought that MC was going to have sex with Sally based on the 2 previews. I'll concede you know more than me. It was a thought.
On the subject of Sally I felt so confident something would happen with her in 11, boy were we took for a ride

After the 7 minutes in heaven, I felt compelled to react in this manner

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Lagunavii

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On the Jill dump route she might feel bad and give MC a pity fuck :BootyTime:
We actually did consider this, which is what a conversation was about the other day. trying to get a meeting with her at dinner and then getting knocked back by Jill. Alas it was an impossible task and other than the changed dialogue there's nothing there.
 
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ffive

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I mean she does go on to say she thought about him when masturbating. is that just because she's seen his cock or is it because she's seen him in a spartan costume?
That scene is tied to being Jill/Bella route, so it's likely tied to the interactions at the cabin. At the same time though, Bianca will also tell literally every MC who plays Santa that she has dreamed about him coming to her bedroom to wake her up and give her a spanking. So i wouldn't really read much into what she says. The girl is a total and shameless flirt that can get going at a drop of a hat.

In any case, we'll find out in (hopefully) just short 2-3 years, depending if it takes good doctor an episode or two to get there. :sneaky:
 
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While I like Ep11 in general, some content is really annoying :
Sage path in Ep 11 has turned into a minefield and is now a chore.

- Sage path allows to flirt with Camila in class but blocks the 1st Camila lewd scene.

- The lewd scene with Sage (alone) requires that mc did not fool around with Jade (ep3_acceptedJade == false AND ep4_toldDerekAboutJade == false) and that mc did not "cheat" on Sage (tc <= 5) in Season 3.
Even on a Chick game I am above 5 cheat points. The lewd scene at Bella's party is automatically skipped.
So I probably have to replay Season 3 once more and manually avoid the up to 39 (?) options to cheat on Sage ...

- On the other side the threesome with Camila and Sage is easy to get if mc is open for more than vanilla sex (Ep 9) and fooled around with the HOTs in EP 10. (ep10_dots_attitude > 1 and not ep9_sage_vanilla)
Well its basically the same for every path, even the "others". Its more or less all about staying faithful or not and face the consequences at some point. That it will be like this was clear after episode 8. You choose a girl and now its about how this will work out and if the MC can stay faithful or is tempted. It was obvious that a smooth sailing relationship will not be that easy after episode 8... i mean, we were only halfway through the game at that point and with the comeback of Zoey everything was screaming "testing time for every relationship" and everybody in this thread already assumed that Zoey and other things will be forced drama on each and every relationship. And its exactly like that.

Of course the "right" choice are pretty obvious and easy to make. Its a no-no to flirt or even go further with other girls if you wanna be on a "love" route with a girl. So i dont know why you are complaining about the Sage path here... You want a fun relationship with Sage including other girls like she suggests herself at some points? No problem, but of course thats not the faithful-love-route leading to a serious stable relationship. It may be a porn game, but regarding relationship building DPCs follows at least SOME reasonable rules, and even a porn-fantasy-brain should understand, that fuckingaround and including other girls in an early relationship will not work for a serious-love-relationship in the long run. Other than that, i dont know if you were yourself at any point in your life in a REAL relationship, but those are chorses, all the time... thats why most relationships dont last, and many people decide thats not worth it in the end to try again. This game makes those "chorse" totally easy though... so you want to be on a loveroute with Sage? Duh, thats not complicated, just dont fuck around. Same goes for every other girl too... and on the "others" path its the same, you want to get serious with one of the girls down the road? Yep, dont fuck around.

If you want to fuck around... well, no problem either, but dont expect a serious relationship out of that, thats delusional... and thats the reason why iam not able to play most of the games on F95 anymore. You can fuck around everywhere, every girl is practically jumping the protagonist without doing anything and in the end of each game just choose a girl and see her ending after you fucked multiple girls at the same time... or even get all the girls at once in a harem.... meh. Boring and stupid as fuck. Being a dik is by far not realistic in ANY way. But at least somewhat reasonable how the relationships work and what consequences you have to face if you take a wrong turn... and those wrong turns are not hidden, they are totally obvious.

The only thing that is NOT obvious, is the J&M path at this point... you try to get even with both the entire game, and at the end of ep 11 you get a "ILY" scenario but its not really obvious why that particular girl not the other. And especially, why not both? I traced back my playthrough with J&M and in the end... 1 RP point makes the difference, THAT is ridiculous and really bothersome.

But the Sage path? All the way there are only straight arrows where you have to head if you want a love-relationship with her, wrong turns are shown with "signposts" big as mount everest. Ignore those signs and take the wrong turn, well... face the consequence. I dont know why this is a minefield... mines in a minefield dont have big ass fucking arrows over them with bright lights screaming "dont step here" but Sages-path in this game does.
 

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That said, I still find it hard to justify 15 months of development.
I'm with you on this one, and it does feel like DPC shot himself in the foot. He may or may not have intended to release ep9 around halloween, ep10 around thanksgiving and ep11 around Christmas, but he would have hit those dates if he was not waiting for animations to render and what a treat would it have been to all of us.
Me personally playing Christmas themed episode in March felt weird and at some point I had to turn off those annoying Christmas songs, the festive spirit was gone since January. That being said, I am definitely replaying some of the branches during the upcoming Christmas holidays to prepare for ep12 and will sing along to those songs haha.
At this point I think there is strong feedback among the community that more content with 30fps or faster dev time is better than 60fps animations but a lot of fanboys on discord love to brownnose DPC no matter what decisions he makes. And he himself is getting his monthly patreon money without the need to accelerate where necessary. That's what happens in a line of work where you don't have deadlines to hit.
On the other hand, the whole addition of Madame was due to animation queue being finished and he was still working on an episode, so her content was added to keep his render farm busy.. And we all just adore Madame, right?
 
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Lagunavii

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I think only on Jill path you can tell Bianca that Matthew is cheating :
"I told Bianca that Matthew was cheating on her with Olivia."

After that she considers herself as "single" but feels guilty when flirting with mc since they are cheating on Jill.

The hot tub scene can only happen on Jill's path when Bianca tries to place herself between mc and Jill. The scene is different on Bella's path.
This is true and you don't even need to tell Jill this - so she doesn't have to be single on one of the routes, she might indeed be taken on both, The dialogue actually changes if shes with a fella. So I guess there is that sign shes willing to cheat on her fella.

Im not just just talking about the scene with Jill in the hot tub. I am talking about the whole thing. The seeing him naked, the feeding him champagne, the bending over and flashing him. Yeah they go on to lightly flirt at the party, but its no where near as harmless as that. regardless of if shes with a fella or not, the ski trip flirting showed her she likes it, no matter how wrong it was.

Now again, I'll concede that as the flirting continues she may like it in say episode 12 and be willing to make a move so to speak and it could be argued the game is tracking it. obviously it knows who you pick for the cucumber task (if you picked that), and it'll know how many of the bowl tasks you did, but other than that outside of the Bella/Jill path its tracking nothing. that should tell you there's nothing planned beyond that path. otherwise, it would be getting tracked.
 

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Ok I can't remember if this have been discussed recently but have we found out if there was any changes if let Derick stay in our room instead of the closet ?
 

osculim

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This is true and you don't even need to tell Jill this - so she doesn't have to be single on one of the routes, she might indeed be taken on both, The dialogue actually changes if shes with a fella. So I guess there is that sign shes willing to cheat on her fella.

Im not just just talking about the scene with Jill in the hot tub. I am talking about the whole thing. The seeing him naked, the feeding him champagne, the bending over and flashing him. Yeah they go on to lightly flirt at the party, but its no where near as harmless as that. regardless of if shes with a fella or not, the ski trip flirting showed her she likes it, no matter how wrong it was.

Now again, I'll concede that as the flirting continues she may like it in say episode 12 and be willing to make a move so to speak and it could be argued the game is tracking it. obviously it knows who you pick for the cucumber task (if you picked that), and it'll know how many of the bowl tasks you did, but other than that outside of the Bella/Jill path its tracking nothing. that should tell you there's nothing planned beyond that path. otherwise, it would be getting tracked.
I think the whole thing of telling and not telling might affect people negatively later on.
 
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