Geralt From Rivia

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Totally agree. If you go for a Zoey path. Chick is the way to go.
And here's where the conflict lies: DIK Zoey is generally cool in everyday situations, but is off-putting if she targets you as a love interest. I'd rather remain friends with her, but... I don't know if that's possible, it will depend on how she behaves in the future.
 

Donnerbox

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Zoey run: You couldn't live without your past. And where did that bring you? Back to me.

Well, here we are. Zoey becomes a full-fledged LI with her own branch, which has sub-branches as well. For me, this is a bit early, I expected that this would happen a bit later in Episode 12 and her journey would become a route in Season 4. Well, it is what it is. When discussing Zoey from now, we need to consider that we have two versions of Zoey - DIK and Chick, they react differently, have different personalities and different attitudes. We have two different characters. And it was quite controversial. I have a different attitude towards each version of Zoey.
We have a short event almost at the beginning of the game where MC comes to explain his Ep.10 confession, which makes 2/5 main girls jealous and here without words everything is clear - Zoey is in love with our guy. Completely. One look is enough. She finally realized how important MC is to her.
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Btw, at the party we have the opportunity to get a secret scene with Zoey if MC volunteers and chooses her for a dildo sucking contest. We can see a flashback of her blowing MC on a bench.

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But we're here for the punchline. This is where Zoey confesses her love to MC. And then it all depends on her affinity. For me personally, the Chick version here is the same Zoey I would like to reunite with. She respects MC's boundaries if he is already in a relationship, it is very touching and sad if you have to refuse. I have complete empathy for her. Sorry Zoey, I definitely have a save for you. DPC picked the perfect song for this moment. Really strong. Two people who realized their feelings, but it was too late...
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But DIK Zoey just killed the vibe of the moment. I know her personality is being more sassy, aggressive, and straightforward. I always liked the DIK version of her for her brashness: returning the favor to Emma, kicking a firefighter for harassing her on the dance floor, more uninhibited dialogue. Kiled her lines. I like how she snapped at Becky while Chick Zoey ignored it. She's more fun. But at the same time, DIK Zoey is more selfish, as the love declare scene showed. I could overlook one kiss, I'm not a saint myself on some routes (Bianca), but this line:
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JUST NO. By reacting this way when you tell her that “I’m already in a relationship,” Zoey makes it clear that she doesn’t care about your feelings. She’s thinking about herself. This is a red flag and immediately pushed me away. That's like ultra level of being selfish. “I don’t want you to be with me if you don’t sure” slightly improves the situation, but still leaves an unpleasant aftertaste. I won’t jump to conclusions and write her off completely, let’s see how she copes with damage control in Ep. 12. If she continues to impose herself in this way, if she can’t cope with rejection, then DIK Zoey is better off stepping aside. As a result, we have two different Zoey, one of them is just cool and dope as before, the second is questionable.

Meanwhile, the succesful reunion scene I got on the Others route was one of the strongest moments of the episode. Absolutely loved it.
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The final score:
10/10 Chick Zoey
5/10 DIK Zoey

Think about your partner's feelings too, not just yours, and you will be same happy as this girl.:p
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Great review as always Gerhalt :)
 
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MilesEdgeworth

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I think Bianca's path is a trap. Especially if you are on Jill's path & you told Bianca about Matt. DPC seems like the type to set a trap where the only way you get Bianca content is to be on the Others path. Bella & Jill cheat path is going to end in disappointment.

Either Bianca is setting you up to help her friend, or Bella will catch you before you seal the deal. I hope I'm wrong. But he sometimes intentionally does things to piss people off.
In order to show Bianca that you like her, you have to show interest at the cabin. Otherwise, you're just a drunken fratboy doing fratboy shit at the party which is easy for Bianca to brush off as drinking behavior.
 

Lagunavii

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I don't forget he mention him. Its a case of no one can ever understand what Dalli_x is ever on about.
He's had some fucking classic theories to be fair. Wasted full days reading them before. Might have been a case of struggling to understand, might have been a case of not being able to stop laughing at the stupidity of them.
 

dontehall2023

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You can't get on the Bianca path on the Others route. Well technically you can't get on the Bianca path at all, given what seems like a programing error...

But even with that error aside, you can only get on it by taking an off ramp on either Bella's or Jill's route.
I understand about the variable. But there is light flirting if you're on the Others path. I'm just thinking that in order to get content with Bianca going forward you would have to be on the Others path. Jill & Bella's cheat path(s) is a trap that's going to end badly for MC.

She's too open about doing to Jill what Olivia did to her. And she's been friends with Jill since they were children. I know what she says (wild). But it just feels like a setup. And on Bella's path, I think you'll get caught since both of you are in relationships.

Not that any of this matters. I have variations for both. I'm prepared for whatever DPC throws at me. Unless grabbing her ass is mandatory for future content. I'm not making a variation that early. Pivoting from the ski lodge is easier than pivoting from the Halloween party.
 

Lagunavii

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I understand about the variable. But there is light flirting if you're on the Others path. I'm just thinking that in order to get content with Bianca going forward you would have to be on the Others path. Jill & Bella's cheat path(s) is a trap that's going to end badly for MC.

She's too open about doing to Jill what Olivia did to her. And she's been friends with Jill since they were children. I know what she says (wild). But it just feels like a setup. And on Bella's path, I think you'll get caught since both of you are in relationships.

Not that any of this matters. I have variations for both. I'm prepared for whatever DPC throws at me. Unless grabbing her ass is mandatory for future content. I'm not making a variation that early. Pivoting from the ski lodge is easier than pivoting from the Halloween party.
No because as MilesEdgeworth just pointed out, the villa is the important thing here.

Variable aside, you can't even talk to her in Tommy's room on any path but Jill's or Bella's. On any other path she's still with her fella, you've built up no rapport with her you're nothing to her. There's not even a path onto it from the Jill rejects/others path in which she showed a slight bit of interest in you

If you want Bianca you're definitely hurting Jill or Bella

Myself and osculim have tried coming at this path anyway we can. Trust me, if you want on it, you're hurting Jill or Bella
 
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Valithor

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On review, it looks like I was wrong. My layout is different from yours, with Tommy and John Boy swapped. Seems to confirm the layouts are random. Again, though, I'm wondering at what point the layout is chosen...
That 6.75 might've been mine, not sure if you can push that board much more, maybe can get something with space saving perks (but honestly I feel like they are a trap), but I've already stretched it thin, iirc everything on the board was scoring.
What's your pp total?
Id assume that boards get randomised at the start of episode, but need to check it.
 

4Zero9Zero

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No because as MilesEdgeworth just pointed out, the villa is the important thing here.

Variable aside, you can't even talk to her in Tommy's room on any path but Jill's or Bella's. On any other path she's still with her fella, you've built up no rapport with her you're nothing to her. There's not even a path onto it from the Jill rejects/others path in which she showed a slight bit of interest in you

If you want Bianca you're definitely hurting Jill or Bella
The only slight interest she shows is when she tells Jill at Halloween Tremolo makes her wish she was single

Like you i'm also a firm believer that it's only going somewhere by sullying your reputation with Jill and Bella
 

Lagunavii

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The only slight interest she shows is when she tells Jill at Halloween Tremolo makes her wish she was single

Like you i'm also a firm believer that it's only going somewhere by sullying your reputation with Jill and Bella
If you're on the Jill Rejects/others path she'll say something like "if you don't want him can I?“ but that's about it. Even on that path she's taken and has no idea he's cheating on her. People are really underestimating what happened on the trip.
 
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osculim

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He's had some fucking classic theories to be fair. Wasted full days reading them before. Might have been a case of struggling to understand, might have been a case of not being able to stop laughing at the stupidity of them.
Let it not be said they are not a fun read. The weirdness of it all is what makes them so entertaining.
 
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ffive

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But DIK Zoey just killed the vibe of the moment. I know her personality is being more sassy, aggressive, and straightforward. I always liked the DIK version of her for her brashness: returning the favor to Emma, kicking a firefighter for harassing her on the dance floor, more uninhibited dialogue. Kiled her lines. I like how she snapped at Becky while Chick Zoey ignored it. She's more fun. But at the same time, DIK Zoey is more selfish, as the love declare scene showed. I could overlook one kiss, I'm not a saint myself on some routes (Bianca), but this line:
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JUST NO. By reacting this way when you tell her that “I’m already in a relationship,” Zoey makes it clear that she doesn’t care about your feelings. She’s thinking about herself. This is a red flag and immediately pushed me away. That's like ultra level of being selfish. “I don’t want you to be with me if you don’t sure” slightly improves the situation, but still leaves an unpleasant aftertaste.
I quite disagree -- i have actually loved how unapologetically selfish and all-in DIK Zoey was there, willing to put very much everything on the line. You don't really make this sort of request if you don't care about someone to the point of wanting them above all else.

But i also have a slightly different interpretation of this scene -- when Zoey says she doesn't care, i think she's responding more to what Fuckface leaves unsaid when he brings up he's in relationship. Which is, if he was to choose Zoey, then his current girlfriend would be disappointed and hurt. And i think that's more what Zoey refers to when she says she doesn't care. She puts her feelings over feelings of the other girl (and honestly, why shouldn't she) not the MC, but she is also giving Fuckface a convenient way to reduce his guilt, by "merely" accepting Zoey's request, instead of making the decision all on his own and completely unprompted. In this sense, i'm actually less impressed with Chick Zoey who basically leaves the ball completely in Fuckface's court. Even though she knows that he's a hysterical snowflake who's gonna huff and puff and triple-guess himself while moping for next two weeks.
 
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dontehall2023

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No because as MilesEdgeworth just pointed out, the villa is the important thing here.

Variable aside, you can't even talk to her in Tommy's room on any path but Jill's or Bella's. On any other path she's still with her fella, you've built up no rapport with her you're nothing to her. There's not even a path onto it from the Jill rejects/others path in which she showed a slight bit of interest in you

If you want Bianca you're definitely hurting Jill or Bella
You flirt with her during the bowl mission. And she is also a choice during the cucumber game. She has told Jill that you are hotter in person if you helped Jill during the recital.

You guys are assuming that a path can't open up from so little interaction. What major interaction did you have with Tara or Tiffani prior to ep 11? You kissed Tara & licked Tiffani. Neither of which are canon & required to have sex with them. Same with sleeping in the bed with them. I understand they are different than Bianca.

But I would say your relationship is further than Cinderella & everyone believes a path is going to open with her in the next update.

I'm just theorizing. It matters not to me either way.
 

osculim

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The only slight interest she shows is when she tells Jill at Halloween Tremolo makes her wish she was single

Like you i'm also a firm believer that it's only going somewhere by sullying your reputation with Jill and Bella
There is a change if Jill rejected you. Don't know if it will make a big difference tho but that line changes to Her saying that if Jill don't want you if she can have you.
 
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