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I'm not done with the update but I just fucking knew it! That we'll be getting Apollyon to see her human form. I really love the horny intellectual/curious girl trope. That sex scene's amazing.
Holy Shit, Apollyon was channeling her inner teenage Alice, wasn't she? That was amazing!!!I must say, that Apollyon scene was the best scene in this game for me so far![]()
I have one save where I'm doing everything but Tina, and one where I'm catching up on her stuff and also trying to make "different choices" where they exist... like whether anita and marisa met.If you play without the mod, you won't be able to complete every story part each round. Each round ends and you'll notice you didn't get to everything and the main story will continue on. At least that was the impression I got before using the mod. (Replayability is a luxury for me, so I usually do a blind run, but not in harem-type sandboxes).
You'll miss out on doing about 2-3 each round if I recall correctly.
There are a lot of if's to prevent things like this from happening, but not surprising if a few are missed. Can probably report them so ILS can go back and fix them.I honestly haven't played in a couple updates - too busy at work. I keep up and check on this site/discord daily, but I haven't written the update for this (or the N&T DC). I've just been too busy. I noticed a few things like that - but yeah - attributed it to being WIP (work in process). Play i twith the mod and see if you like it. Who knows. I just want to see how the story turns out. I play like 6 runthoughs when I do the walkthrough - so yeah - I don't have a cannon game.
true - but I read the code - and report if I find anything that doesn't make logical sense (my BS in computer coding).There are a lot of if's to prevent things like this from happening, but not surprising if a few are missed. Can probably report them so ILS can go back and fix them.
1) I will say that there are many laws which many (more than 50% of US citizens) get wrong and don't understand. Title IX is one of many (HIPAA, GLBA, ACA (Obamacare), etc.) are all laws which many people consistently get wrong what the laws were written for and what they can do. Just because a writer wrote a character which doesn't know exactly what the law states, doesn't mean the dev doesn't know. Just pointing out that fact.<snip>
First, the dev(s) REALLY need to learn EXACTLY what the requirements of title IX are before railing endlessly about the unfairness between men's and women's treatment in college sports. I could detail the many misconception fostered by Tina's comments, but that would make this comment pages long, so I'll leave it at that - go read title IX and then read how it's been accommodated by the colleges.
Second, without the mod this VN is reduced to tedium. Using the mod you can keep all the various stories synced avoiding skew between their various progress. NO AVN should require a mod to allow an even progression. This matters because certain progress with a given LI requires a level of progress with another. Using the mod I could keep all the stories progressing a pace.
Third, creating a super villain who achieved that status by breaking the system, without intervention by the controlling forces, is very poor plotting. Not just a dramatically unfair advantage, but then he is ignored as he violates rules and demonstrates capabilities that are impossible with in the rules as described to the player.
I'd complain about the sandboxish nature of the VN, but that would be dishonest since I used the mod to mitigate most of the related issues.
Fourth, as said elsewhere many times, it's disheartening to play a VN where you know in advance that the BEST POSSIBLE OUTCOME is to push every LI beyond the pale and have no future with any of them. I and others suspect that the author(s) plan(s) to provide a loophole near the end of the VN that will offer the MC options, but that doesn't mitigate the fact that as we play this VN that ugly ending is all we are offered. If there are alternatives, you should make us aware of that fact, not necessarily what those alternatives are but that they exist.
I am on board with Fredo on this one. The issue isn't needing the mod to see 100% of the content in one playthrough. Not at all. You know my comments about the mod in N&T. I could give a rat's ass about seeing every bit of content in 1 playthrough. But as Fredo pointed out, as I've pointed out, as multiple other posters have pointed out, events are happening in the main storyline, and in certain character arcs, that reference events that the player may well have not seen in other character arcs. Things the player may not have done (yet.) You're probably more insulated from this effect because a) you play multiple playthroughs and have seen all the content available so if something comes up you're probably aware of it even if you didn't see it in the playthrough you're working on at that time, and b) you haven't even played the last two updates, which is where these inconsistencies/incongruities are becoming more frequent, prevalent, and impacting. I've decided when the next update comes out (or if I catch up my other games and get bored before then) I'm going to bite the bullet, install the mod, and restart just because of these incongruities. Which is a shame, because I'm in effect being forced to, in a sandbox format that was probably created with the intent to allow players to skip certain characters if they found them unappealing, play through all the character arcs in order to make the ones I prefer make sense....
2) While I get the whole progression thing, I haven't used the mod, and I have multiple playthroughs so I can do testing for the WT (which I am so damn far behind on - I still haven't played 12 or 13 yet - much less wrote the WT). If your sole purpose is for getting through a game - in 1 run through - with 100% of the content - okay - understood. Having to play multiple runthroughs might be the dev's choice. I don't know, just saying. Art is art. FYI - the Dev is reading their Discord server, and trying to fix those so that you cannot get ahead of others and out of order. This is all part of playing a game that is a work in progress.
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Point taken. As you stated - I haven't played the last two updates as I have been too damn busy - not at home/traveling - and only have so much free time after I leave the client sites. Damn I miss my PC, my bed, my house, its been 4 months since I've been home.I am on board with Fredo on this one. The issue isn't needing the mod to see 100% of the content in one playthrough. Not at all. You know my comments about the mod in N&T. I could give a rat's ass about seeing every bit of content in 1 playthrough. But as Fredo pointed out, as I've pointed out, as multiple other posters have pointed out, events are happening in the main storyline, and in certain character arcs, that reference events that the player may well have not seen in other character arcs. Things the player may not have done (yet.) You're probably more insulated from this effect because a) you play multiple playthroughs and have seen all the content available so if something comes up you're probably aware of it even if you didn't see it in the playthrough you're working on at that time, and b) you haven't even played the last two updates, which is where these inconsistencies/incongruities are becoming more frequent, prevalent, and impacting. I've decided when the next update comes out (or if I catch up my other games and get bored before then) I'm going to bite the bullet, install the mod, and restart just because of these incongruities. Which is a shame, because I'm in effect being forced to, in a sandbox format that was probably created with the intent to allow players to skip certain characters if they found them unappealing, play through all the character arcs in order to make the ones I prefer make sense.