VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.02] [Underground Studio]

[Yellowie The Goldie]

That lists narrows it decently down, assuming it won't change. I do worry a bit about the harem forming, since Veronica allowed MC to fuck others. Straight out cucking Copper is unlikely, unless NTR doesn't include Netori. Foursome isn't mentioned, but threesome, so the two of them being down for it isn't out of the cards either.
A few good indications for sure, but not conclusive.


I'm bad at names. More importantly, where did I ask for content for her? I'm interested in discussing the possibility and nature of her potential content, including arguing against the exclusion of Camille by default. Nothing states that I particular like her, though I mentioned in the past that cucking Cooper is hilarious, though phrased in a jokey nature.

It just won't happen, especially given that Cooper went above and beyond to give MC 250k - which was half of his earnings in underground street betting.

That's more money than either one has ever seen before. It's the type of thing your "ride or die" buddy does for you and you are forever grateful to him. You're going to tell me that MC is going to betray THAT kind of friend? The kind that's always been there for him and never wavered? Never once stepped out of line? Always had his back?

It would be the most evil thing you could ever do...and that's assuming Camille is even interested in it (spoiler alert: she's only interested in one Rhinoceros and it ain't MC.)

It's just not that kind of game. If you want to cuck someone, I'm sure there's a certain popular and up-to-date game where you can play as both a Female and Male MC where there's a 'reasonable' amount of cucking involved. Race of Life isn't that kind of game, it appeals to a different genre.

 

[Gicoo]

It just won't happen, especially given that Cooper went above and beyond to give MC 250k - which was half of his earnings in underground street betting.

The money could backfire if it pulls Cooper and MC into even more shit.

(spoiler alert: she's only interested in one Rhinoceros and it ain't MC.)

We don't know that. Even if she would say that, she could be lying.

It's just not that kind of game.

Assuming NTR refers to Netori as well. Also, it is possible to fuck Camille without NTR. Swinging or she simply breaks up.

I'm not particulary interested in regular NTR. My kink is male: Netorare or Reverse Netorare, in which a woman cucks another woman by stealing her man. This has a low chance of being invoked here, though Jasmine taunting Veronica and Alison getting betrayed again, potentially by hooking up with Tara again, are a few potential plotlines, not that I expect them, there aren't strong indications for it.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

The money could backfire if it pulls Cooper and MC into even more shit.


We don't know that. Even if she would say that, she could be lying.


Assuming NTR refers to Netori as well. Also, it is possible to fuck Camille without NTR. Swinging or she simply breaks up.

I'm not particulary interested in regular NTR. My kink is male: Netorare or Reverse Netorare, in which a woman cucks another woman by stealing her man. This has a low chance of being invoked here, though Jasmine taunting Veronica and Alison getting betrayed again, potentially by hooking up with Tara again, are a few potential plotlines, not that I expect them, there aren't strong indications for it.

Alright man whatever. If you're desperate for NTR/screwing Camille in Race of Life, you do you. Just don't be surprised 5 years from now when you don't see any of it.

 

[The Senior Perv]

It's just not that kind of game. If you want to cuck someone, I'm sure there's a certain popular and up-to-date game where you can play as both a Female and Male MC where there's a 'reasonable' amount of cucking involved. Race of Life isn't that kind of game, it appeals to a different genre.

And what about cucking Allison again? We already have the 'Cheating' tag, so let's make it worth it.

 

[Gicoo]

Alright man whatever. If you're desperate for NTR/screwing Camille in Race of Life, you do you. Just don't be surprised 5 years from now when you don't see any of it.

Why should I be surprised? I wouldn't bat an eye. As theorized, I find it impossible to have Camille be involved under the current circumstances, consequently her and Cooper would need to face a crisis of sorts to change accordingly alongside MC.
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I can't imagine a plausible scenario in which they currently fuck, either. But that isn't what was asked about. Its about future potential scenes and in that regard, only your imagination is the limit. The no brainer is simply be Cooper and Carmille be swingers, which is entirely consistent with their carefree personalities. Cooper could be cool to lend her or its a fair foursome.
The demand to hog her for yourself and cuck Cooper is at odds with the current friendship the MC upholds to him. If over the course of the game, Cooper can become more and more an annoyance, if not an (unwillingly) detriment to MC (the money he gifts him with could backfire horrendously), a MC who may develop further on the ruthless side, could end up antagonising him fairly plausible. Carmille would need to be develop further as well to justify why she would be on bad terms with Cooper, but since we know significantly less about her, there is much more room to move around. The two scenes with her and MC already set up a playful relationship, so expanding that already existing bond is doable, as well.

Going from the current development log and which character it adresses, its clear that Carmille is not on any high priority to expect anything soon. But the same can be said about Patricia and some other women who were barely introduced.

I'm just against dismissing a potential Camille plotline from the get go. Unless you guys are from the future or got confirmation from the developer. Else, be more openminded, folks!

 

[DivineMachine]

Honestly I don't remember seeing anyone who claims to be neutral about the idea to use so much brainpower to come up with all these possible scenarios for it, despite the chances being very slim.

I mean, what's next? Put some vampires in the game, just because we can? It's not impossible after all.
That's why the question isn't what is possible, it's simply why? And no one came up with a proper reason other than it's my kink basically, to which we go back to "there are other games for that".

And what about cucking Allison again? We already have the 'Cheating' tag, so let's make it worth it.

Where do you see cheating tag? I don't see it.

 

[Gicoo]

Honestly I don't remember seeing anyone who claims to be neutral about the idea to use so much brainpower to come up with all these possible scenarios for it, despite the chances being very slim.

I mean, what's next? Put some vampires in the game, just because we can? It's not impossible after all.
That's why the question isn't what is possible, it's simply why? And no one came up with a proper reason other than it's my kink basically, to which we go back to "there are other games for that".

Camille was introduced and established in the game as an openminded and sexual active woman in a game which includes pursuing and dating several women as one of its core aspects, so dating her would fit in the setting without any issue. Vampires were neither introduced nor would they fit the apparant non-supernatural setting.

Where do you see cheating tag? I don't see it.

Above the thread, right under the topic title.
Authors official tags can disagree with the definition of F95 or your own definition.

 

[The Senior Perv]

Where do you see cheating tag? I don't see it.

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[TMacHall]

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Yeah? But that storyline is already in the game.

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So, if you just want a cheating storyline, you already have it. But that isn't an avenue to what some people here seem to want, which is a hyper-specific fetish to your best friend because his wife is somewhat attractive and doesn't think the MC's penis is magic. This goes back to what I said when I logged in this morning: you're at a Wendy's. If you want crab cakes, go to where they serve crab cakes.

And for the 'keep an open mind' crowd....no. Fantasizing scenarios in which the developer attends to your hyper-specific fetish even if it breaks their own work is not being open-minded. It's trolling at best, unemployed behavior at worst. You already have developers that will hand you that niche on a silver platter. Let them feed you.

 

[DivineMachine]

Camille was introduced and established in the game as an openminded and sexual active woman in a game which includes pursuing and dating several women as one of its core aspects, so dating her would fit in the setting without any issue. Vampires were neither introduced nor would they fit the apparant non-supernatural setting.

You realize you just contradicted yourself with your own statement?
When I said there is no good reason for this to happen, you kept repeating "well, how can you know? Game barely started! It's possible there will be a reason in the future" Now when I bring up vampires, suddenly this logic doesn't apply. As you put it, nothing indicates there will be vampires or supernatural about it.

Well, nothing indicates MC will fuck Camille or that he should. You are back again with "there is an attractive woman who likes sex in the game, therefore MC needs to bang". If you think that's anywhere near to a good argument, then I can only feel sad for you.

 

[DivineMachine]

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I see, didn't know this section is different from spoiler hidden one. Anyway, this could just mean that you play as MC who cheated on his wife as a backstory. But even if we get to cheat again, this has nothing to do with cucking Cooper and betraying your best friend.

EDIT: Forgot about Veronica TMac reminded me.
EDIT2: Btw, pretty sure Veronica could be a vampire.

 

[Gicoo]

When I said there is no good reason for this to happen, you kept repeating "well, how can you know? Game barely started! It's possible there will be a reason in the future" Now when I bring up vampires, suddenly this logic doesn't apply. As you put it, nothing indicates there will be vampires or supernatural about it.

Of course there were potential indicators that Camille plausible could be a love/fuck interest. Unlike the vampires, she was introduced and has several scenes with the MC. And unlike the by necessary supernatural elements that come with vampires, the game features comparable sexual available woman in Camillas range, so applying this already existing element on her is not as implausible as applying supernatural elements to this ordinary world that requires science and medicine to keep the daughter alive (hopefully someone chims in and argues that her medical cure could count as magic).

Well, nothing indicates MC will fuck Camille or that he should. You are back again with "there is an attractive woman who likes sex in the game, therefore MC needs to bang". If you think that's anywhere near to a good argument, then I can only feel sad for you.

Can we please keep this discussion on a porn game and refrain from insinuating that anyone here applies the games logic to real life? It's very rude and needlessly personal in an otherwise very impersonal discussion.

While a few pointed out how riddicolous it is to expect/demand sex from every hot person they see in real life, porn game work much differently. If a character with a full model and personality and background is introduced and fleshed out, its far more likely that that character is used in sexual encounters to enrich the experience of the game, because implementing that character required work, time, cost, so it must have some sort of reward, effect. Obviously, not every character needs to be used for that, some can work just as background, non sexual elements of the game, just fullfill another role. And this can very well apply to Camille, who stays Coopers wife and may not be seen in an sexual encounter or naked ever. Does this 100% refute that she can't get sexual content? No.

 

[Penfold Mole]

YOU WILL NOT FUCK YOUR BEST FRIEND WIFE, THUS SAITH THE LORD.

A little wife swapping, then?

 

[DivineMachine]

Of course there were potential indicators that Camille plausible could be a love/fuck interest. Unlike the vampires, she was introduced and has several scenes with the MC. And unlike the by necessary supernatural elements that come with vampires, the game features comparable sexual available woman in Camillas range, so applying this already existing element on her is not as implausible as applying supernatural elements to this ordinary world that requires science and medicine to keep the daughter alive (hopefully someone chims in and argues that her medical cure could count as magic).

This is getting a bit ridiculous. It's like saying there is blood in game, therefore vampires are totally possible.
Not to mention that most people irl don't believe in supernatural, but can you say 100% for sure that it isn't possible?
And I'll even use your own argument (again) and say it's just a game, so why do you think supernatural is so out of possibility? Again, by your own logic, we are early in the game. MC could very well wake up some day and realize he was possesed by a demon that made him cheat on his wife.

Can we please keep this discussion on a porn game and refrain from insinuating that anyone here applies the games logic to real life? It's very rude and needlessly personal in an otherwise very impersonal discussion.

Why? Because it's inconvenient for you? There is plenty of real life inserted in games, even porn ones. Otherwise story wouldn't be as compelling. Games with best stories aren't the ones where you happen to be the only guy in a house full of hot women and in two days, they jump on your dick. No, the ones with good stories are ones that are more believable and closer to real life. Yes, it's a porn game, but that doesn't mean there is absolutely no need for good dialogue, consistency, well written characters etc. You can clearly separate well written AVNs from the ones that are just there for sex mostly. Besides, it doesn't even need to rely on real life. Thinking just because there is an attractive woman in game, she should get banged by MC, is just a strange notion.

If a character with a full model and personality and background is introduced and fleshed out, its far more likely that that character is used in sexual encounters to enrich the experience of the game, because implementing that character required work, time, cost, so it must have some sort of reward, effect.

Have you consider a possibility that she is "fleshed out" for the sake of Cooper, to make his character better, more realistic, relatable etc? I actually notice and am bothered by games that have pretty good story, yet MC is the only guy in the game or only one that is being seen by women. It makes story less believable. It's not a deal breaker, but it sure doesn't help make it better.

Does this 100% refute that she can't get sexual content? No.

We are talking in circles. I already told you many times it's not a question about whether it's possible, it's question about why should it be? And you keep going back to "hot girl, so gotta/should be there for sex".
Going by the current state of the game and story, I just see no reason why we should want that to be a possibility. I like the way their relationship work between them and how it works towards MC. It's not common to see that in this genre.

 

[mike12013]

The only way I think the MC would want to fuck Camille is if Cooper wants to be cucked

 

[The Krogan Dude]

The only way I think the MC would want to fuck Camille is if Cooper wants to be cucked

His name isn’t John Boy.

 

[Gicoo]

This is getting a bit ridiculous. It's like saying there is blood in game, therefore vampires are totally possible.
Not to mention that most people irl don't believe in supernatural, but can you say 100% for sure that it isn't possible?
And I'll even use your own argument (again) and say it's just a game, so why do you think supernatural is so out of possibility? Again, by your own logic, we are early in the game. MC could very well wake up some day and realize he was possesed by a demon that made him cheat on his wife.

Don't put words in my mouth. I never stated there won't be vampires, haven't I?
I make their potential existence in this game dependent on indicators. There are no indicators for vampires, but indicators for Camille being a potential love/fuck interest. The moment you see MC interacting with a female vampire ingame, that female vampir being getting her own profile, you can assure I consider her having sexual content in the future. Your comparison simply doesn't work because you ignore that Camille is already included in the game, while Vampires aren't.

If you don't want a ridicolous comparison, then don't go introducing it (as a failed trap nonetheless) and blame me if I bother to take it seriously and humor you.

Because it's inconvenient for you?

Yes, its inconvenient for me to get insulted and suggest that the porn logic I use to analyze porn game is used in my real life experiences when I interact with other people.

The game having many realistic aspects is true, it still has a hot spy with a porn star body, a mass of sexhungry students and a convenient large available pool of supermodel looking available women who conveniently all start going after MC at the same time. I don't want to group the realistic and unrealistic elements in two sections, Camille could fit in either of them, depending on how its done.

Have you consider a possibility that she is "fleshed out" for the sake of Cooper, to make his character better, more realistic, relatable etc?

Yeah, because I just stated something to that effect. This can quite likely be the full extent of Camilles character. But does it have to be that way? No.

Well, nothing indicates MC will fuck Camille or that he should. You are back again with "there is an attractive woman who likes sex in the game, therefore MC needs to bang".

Why does MC fuck Patricia, why does MC fuck Jasmine, why does he fuck anyone? The game has and will provide answers, some more profund and some less so. It could very well do so with Camille as well. I already described some scenarios in which MC could end up with Camille, and attributed it to the already existing content the two have.

 

[Yellowie The Goldie]

A little wife swapping, then?

MC would need a wife to have that happen in the first place. Hahaha...

 

[DivineMachine]

Don't put words in my mouth. I never stated there won't be vampires, haven't I?
I make their potential existence in this game dependent on indicators. There are no indicators for vampires, but indicators for Camille being a potential love/fuck interest. The moment you see MC interacting with a female vampire ingame, that female vampir being getting her own profile, you can assure I consider her having sexual content in the future. Your comparison simply doesn't work because you ignore that Camille is already included in the game, while Vampires aren't.

If you don't want a ridicolous comparison, then don't go introducing it (as a failed trap nonetheless) and blame me if I bother to take it seriously and humor you.


Yes, its inconvenient for me to get insulted and suggest that the porn logic I use to analyze porn game is used in my real life experiences when I interact with other people.

The game having many realistic aspects is true, it still has a hot spy with a porn star body, a mass of sexhungry students and a convenient large available pool of supermodel looking available women who conveniently all start going after MC at the same time. I don't want to group the realistic and unrealistic elements in two sections, Camille could fit in either of them, depending on how its done.


Yeah, because I just stated something to that effect. This can quite likely be the full extent of Camilles character. But does it have to be that way? No.


Why does MC fuck Patricia, why does MC fuck Jasmine, why does he fuck anyone? The game has and will provide answers, some more profund and some less so. It could very well do so with Camille as well. I already described some scenarios in which MC could end up with Camille, and attributed it to the already existing content the two have.

You're just a broken record at this point. Telling me I'm putting words in your mouth, while you again and again make same points - about possibility, despite me repeatedly saying it's not about whether it's possible for Camille to have content or not.
I'm asking you why should she. And your reasons are hilarious to me - she is a woman, she is hot, she is there among other hot women, she smiles at you, she likes sex... she exists!.. Like seriously. She smiles and she exists, so she needs to get banged. Wow, what an impressive story and reason to improve on it. I'm just wondering why people can't appreciate the current way she and Cooper are, they make a great couple and there are plenty of other women there for MC to choose from. But people always want more and whatever they don't have. Same as other games. Even in badik, there are like 30 or more girls to bang, yet it's not enough, People want yoga girl, people want nerd girl and whatnot. It's just ridiculous and shits on the game and story and makes it laughable. Anyway, I guess that's the most we'll get from this and we'll just say we agree to disagree.

 

[Penfold Mole]

MC would need a wife to have that happen in the first place. Hahaha...

Ex will do, after the MC has managed to warm up relations with her well enough