VN Ren'Py Race of Life [Act 1 v1.02] [Underground Studio]

[DivineMachine]

This is the thing people seem to not get. This isn't RL, it's a game, and the entire point of games is to play how you like, within the limitations of game design.

I have no real interest in her myself, but if I were interested in playing the sort of person that would go after her, I should be free to do so.

If "playing that sort of person" would be a thing, I'm sure dev would make a proper context and design characters in a way to support that. The point is, the game is not that and neither MC, Cooper or Camille give you a reason to be such a jackass.

Second, "it's just a game bro" is such a silly argument that I often see not just here, but everywhere. If it's just a game or pixels and nothing matters and doesn't need to make sense, then what's the point of story? Of characters? Of consistency and lore? Why are people complaining "these pixels are not talking the way I want and story isn't interesting" when they rate games? As I said, game needs to be properly written and give you a good reason for every option available to you. Even when you play an evil character, they have their backstory, their mindset, philosophy, reasons to act the way they do. They might still be wrong and evil, but they act accordingly to factors I just listed. So that way, you are given the context, something to work with, so you can roleplay that evil character. Now here in this case, people asking for MC to do that to Cooper and Camille are players IRL projecting themselves and their desires to do something only a complete jackass would want to do. You are not playing a MC that has that wish, you are literally the one that has that wish.

Also, I didn't specifically say it's you who want this - I haven't quoted anyone or tagged anyone after all, but considering how defensive you got and replied to multiple people about it... Well, whatever the case, I don't buy your argument.

 

[mike12013]

What people are failing to understand is in story based VNs like this, the main character isn't a blank slate. He's a character with his own moral compass and motivations and goals, sure you can do some relatively dark shit in this game, but this ain't a VN that you can shape the character exactly in your vision

 

[Maccabbee]

Also, this type of game says it all: Visual Novel. Even with or without sandbox, puzzles, minigames, whatever, they are at their core NOVELS, written by someone other than you. You live in the world as the MC, but must follow the story and its' development. This isn't GTA, Skyrim, etc, where there's an open world and you can completely ignore the main plot. You are not the MC, you are just living in his head.

 

[SamualHand]

Also, this type of game says it all: Visual Novel. Even with or without sandbox, puzzles, minigames, whatever, they are at their core NOVELS, written by someone other than you. You live in the world as the MC, but must follow the story and its' development. This isn't GTA, Skyrim, etc, where there's an open world and you can completely ignore the main plot. You are not the MC, you are just living in his head.

So when Allison is a sugar mommy that is already set and no one can change that, right?

 

[The Krogan Dude]

YOU WILL NOT FUCK YOUR BEST FRIEND WIFE, THUS SAITH THE LORD.

 

[SamualHand]

YOU WILL NOT FUCK YOUR BEST FRIEND WIFE, THUS SAITH THE LORD.

He is fucking everything that moves, why not her? Is she ugly?

 

[Chillout1984]

He is fucking everything that moves, why not her? Is she ugly?

Unfortunately he's also not fucking her:

 

[Maccabbee]

So when Allison is a sugar mommy that is already set and no one can change that, right?

There are only so many branching paths that a writer can write. Fuckers here complain endlessly about long dev times, or devs milking, yet they all want their kinks and sidegirls and maingirls to feature their craziest fantasies in-game. It's obvious reading these forums, and the internet in general, that the world is going to shit.

 

[SamualHand]

There are only so many branching paths that a writer can write. Fuckers here complain endlessly about long dev times, or devs milking, yet they all want their kinks and sidegirls and maingirls to feature their craziest fantasies in-game. It's obvious reading these forums, and the internet in general, that the world is going to shit.

That is a very long yes, but I appreciate it!

 

[TMacHall]

The word of God has already been put forward But let me just put it like this:

Let's say I went to Wendy's and order Crab Cakes with Fries. Of course, they would tell me they can't give me that: they don't serve that at Wendy's. I get indigent because this is a restaurant, restaurants I've been to serve crab cakes and I really like to have it when I go to restaurants. They look at me funny because, again, this is a Wendy's. Another customer comes up and points out to me this is a Wendy's and I'm holding up the line. I get upset because this is a restaurant, I am a customer and they're not serving me properly.

Yeah, it's a game. We know it's a game. Repeating 'it's just a game' doesn't change the fact you're trying to order crab cakes at Wendy's. If that's what you want, go to a spot that serves it. This isn't it. And frankly, at a certain point, if you continue attempting to order crab cakes the Wendy's customers have a right to mock you.

 

[Gicoo]

I don't get why Camille is supposed to be excluded from getting sexual content, as long as it is implemented decently.

Camille can't have content. Camille must have content. Both extremes are wrong.

 

[MiltonPowers]

I don't get why Camille is supposed to be excluded from getting sexual content, as long as it is implemented decently.

Camille can't have content. Camille must have content. Both extremes are wrong.

Camille is getting a fair amount of vitamin D, we just don't get to see it, it's off screen with her husband, MC's best friend.

 

[TMacHall]

I don't get why Camille is supposed to be excluded from getting sexual content, as long as it is implemented decently.

Camille can't have content. Camille must have content. Both extremes are wrong.

I'm going to do this quick, so hang on to your butt.

Could Camille have content in the future? It's entirely possible that there is an extra content scene where the dev figures out a scenario in which Camille and the MC hook up BEFORE Cooper (as was stated at some point in this thread). However, in the world of this game, there are consequences for your behavior. When the MC cheated, he lied to everyone: Cooper and Camille included. He didn't want to put them in a spot where they'd feel forced to defend him, which indicates that he has a code when it comes to them. So, based on the in-game logic and rules, neither of them will attempt it. That's why.

To reference an earlier post I made, you're trying to order crab cakes at Wendy's. There are plenty of restaurants that serve that particular option. The issue is This is a Wendy's. Capiche?

 

[Prokopije]

Banging his best friend's wife is only step which separates MC from eternal boiling with cabbages and carrots in hell's cauldron. Satan be like, one more mistake bro and I'm off vegan diet

 

[Gicoo]

Camille is getting a fair amount of vitamin D, we just don't get to see it, it's off screen with her husband, MC's best friend.

That's not sexual content, unless these scenes are implemented in the game.

So, based on the in-game logic and rules, neither of them will attempt it. That's why.

I can't imagine a plausible scenario in which they currently fuck, either. But that isn't what was asked about. Its about future potential scenes and in that regard, only your imagination is the limit. The no brainer is simply be Cooper and Carmille be swingers, which is entirely consistent with their carefree personalities. Cooper could be cool to lend her or its a fair foursome.
The demand to hog her for yourself and cuck Cooper is at odds with the current friendship the MC upholds to him. If over the course of the game, Cooper can become more and more an annoyance, if not an (unwillingly) detriment to MC (the money he gifts him with could backfire horrendously), a MC who may develop further on the ruthless side, could end up antagonising him fairly plausible. Carmille would need to be develop further as well to justify why she would be on bad terms with Cooper, but since we know significantly less about her, there is much more room to move around. The two scenes with her and MC already set up a playful relationship, so expanding that already existing bond is doable, as well.

Going from the current development log and which character it adresses, its clear that Carmille is not on any high priority to expect anything soon. But the same can be said about Patricia and some other women who were barely introduced.


Wendy is already established and bar some expansions finished. This game is still in development, we don't know entirely in which direction it expands. So your comparison doesn't hold up.

 

[TMacHall]

That's not sexual content, unless these scenes are implemented in the game.


I can't imagine a plausible scenario in which they currently fuck, either. But that isn't what was asked about. Its about future potential scenes and in that regard, only your imagination is the limit. The no brainer is simply be Cooper and Carmille be swingers, which is entirely consistent with their carefree personalities. Cooper could be cool to lend her or its a fair foursome.
The demand to hog her for yourself and cuck Cooper is at odds with the current friendship the MC upholds to him. If over the course of the game, Cooper can become more and more an annoyance, if not an (unwillingly) detriment to MC (the money he gifts him with could backfire horrendously), a MC who may develop further on the ruthless side, could end up antagonising him fairly plausible. Carmille would need to be develop further as well to justify why she would be on bad terms with Cooper, but since we know significantly less about her, there is much more room to move around. The two scenes with her and MC already set up a playful relationship, so expanding that already existing bond is doable, as well.

Going from the current development log and which character it adresses, its clear that Carmille is not on any high priority to expect anything soon. But the same can be said about Patricia and some other women who were barely introduced.


Wendy is already established and bar some expansions finished. This game is still in development, we don't know entirely in which direction it expands. So your comparison doesn't hold up.

Sir, this is a Wendy's. Go to where they serve crab cakes if you want crab cakes. You trying to map out a fanfic where you get crab cakes doesn't change the fact that you're at Wendy's.

 

[DivineMachine]

That's not sexual content, unless these scenes are implemented in the game.


I can't imagine a plausible scenario in which they currently fuck, either. But that isn't what was asked about. Its about future potential scenes and in that regard, only your imagination is the limit. The no brainer is simply be Cooper and Carmille be swingers, which is entirely consistent with their carefree personalities. Cooper could be cool to lend her or its a fair foursome.
The demand to hog her for yourself and cuck Cooper is at odds with the current friendship the MC upholds to him. If over the course of the game, Cooper can become more and more an annoyance, if not an (unwillingly) detriment to MC (the money he gifts him with could backfire horrendously), a MC who may develop further on the ruthless side, could end up antagonising him fairly plausible. Carmille would need to be develop further as well to justify why she would be on bad terms with Cooper, but since we know significantly less about her, there is much more room to move around. The two scenes with her and MC already set up a playful relationship, so expanding that already existing bond is doable, as well.

Going from the current development log and which character it adresses, its clear that Carmille is not on any high priority to expect anything soon. But the same can be said about Patricia and some other women who were barely introduced.


Wendy is already established and bar some expansions finished. This game is still in development, we don't know entirely in which direction it expands. So your comparison doesn't hold up.

Agree with TMacHall. How about we don't ruin perfectly nice story and one of the best bros in AVNs (who happens to have a girlfriend, something forbidden in this genre, where every girl must only exist for MC apparently) and instead you and others who want that, can find plenty of other games that focus on that. Simple as fuck.

 

[Gicoo]

Sir, this is a Wendy's. Go to where they serve crab cakes if you want crab cakes. You trying to map out a fanfic where you get crab cakes doesn't change the fact that you're at Wendy's.

Your Wendy comparison doesn't hold, since the game is merely in development. I didn't state any interest for Carmille content presently, I merely pointed out some of endless possibilities which you outright deny without having knowlegde of the games future development, nor arguments to contradict said possibilities.

Regardless if the demand for Carmille may be phrased unsubstantial, outright denying any possibility of it in the unforeseen future is just as unsubstantial.

 

[Gicoo]

Agree with TMacHall. How about we don't ruin perfectly nice story and one of the best bros in AVNs (who happens to have a girlfriend, something forbidden in this genre, where every girl must only exist for MC apparently) and instead you and others who want that, can find plenty of other games that focus on that. Simple as fuck.

So instead of "There should be Carmille content, because I want it", its "There will be no Carmille content, because I don't want it". How are these two stances any different in their lack of willingness to engage with the current and future development of the game?

Since Carmille was introduced and established as potential available /fuck interest in the game, there is no explicit rule that she could never have any sexual content with the MC. Regardless of what each one of us prefers, which doesn't matter too much, unless its possible to influence the developers. I don't have a strong opinion of this game at its early stages, if anything I'm interested about its potential, than the few things already established.

 

[Maviarab]

as potential available /fuck interest

According to who?

I don't have a strong opinion of this game at its early stages

Could have fooled us...