Dessolos

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Can you spoil the scenes please?
I just installed it to look at the gallery. Unless I miss remember what a scene being in part 1 Looks like a non sexual Jen scene , a Lea HJ , 2 Bri , a Emma Deepthroat and pegging, maaybe a few Kim unsure if she had any in part 1 but there is 3 for chapter 7 Base on the gallery im probably gonna take my sweet time to play the update im no longer in a rush
 
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Was a shit update though, you're not missing out.
Yeah, it was just wrapping up of the remaining characters that didn't got a scene during the first half (more like two thirds) already released. Mostly building blocks/set-up for the remaining two chapters + epilogue.

As an individual update on its own, whatever.

Considering the slower development, developer has lost a good chunk of steam and enthusiasm. It is the middle section of the game which is usually the hardest to write about, so now its all about concluding all plot-lines.

At least structurally, the update offers enough:
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Yeah, it was just wrapping up of the remaining characters that didn't got a scene during the first half (more like two thirds) already released. Mostly building blocks/set-up for the remaining two chapters + epilogue.

As an individual update on its own, whatever.

Considering the slower development, developer has lost a good chunk of steam and enthusiasm. It is the middle section of the game which is usually the hardest to write about, so now its all about concluding all plot-lines.

At least structurally, the update offers enough:
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Yeah after reading this I think i'll just play the update eventually when I get through the other 20 games of updates I still need to play lol. but i'll wait till the next update to replay the game just doesn't seem worth a replay right now. not sure of the context anything as I didn't play it yet but the gallery did feel a bit disappointing to me. Especially since there is what only 2 or 3 more updates left
 

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Yeah, it was just wrapping up of the remaining characters that didn't got a scene during the first half (more like two thirds) already released. Mostly building blocks/set-up for the remaining two chapters + epilogue.

As an individual update on its own, whatever.

Considering the slower development, developer has lost a good chunk of steam and enthusiasm. It is the middle section of the game which is usually the hardest to write about, so now its all about concluding all plot-lines.

At least structurally, the update offers enough:
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To clearify, my view is that of a pure maledom/alpha player.
This game has been heavily skewed towards femdom/beta players from the start, as so many of us has touched on here before regarding the writing, lack of insight into dom mindsets etc. So it's not surprising we got basically nothing for the entire ch 7. I assume there is a bunch for the opposing team so for them it might be a brilliant update, I wouldn't know.
 
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This game has been heavily skewed towards femdom/beta players from the start, as so many of us has touched on here before regarding the writing, lack of insight into dom mindsets etc.
Dunno, isn't there enough content for everyone?
Emma has a dom path in which you degrade her.
Jen wants you to be a dom.
Kim is your partner in crime and likes it if you ake charge and fuck her.
Leah is a bit neutral, but it can also line up with a dominant male fucking and teaching her.
Olivia and Bri are neutral. You don't need to be a sub to fuck them.
Deb is the sole case in which the dom path sucks. I consider her to be the best option for the sub path, anyway, so the dom path is just a bonus, if not overly good.
You likely get Paige later on and dom her, but that may not be most cup of tea.


Didn't include chapter 7, but it seems fairly even (aside from Deb):

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To clearify, my view is that of a pure maledom/alpha player.
This game has been heavily skewed towards femdom/beta players from the start, as so many of us has touched on here before regarding the writing, lack of insight into dom mindsets etc. So it's not surprising we got basically nothing for the entire ch 7. I assume there is a bunch for the opposing team so for them it might be a brilliant update, I wouldn't know.
Good to know, i´m an enjoyer of both so i think i could look at it with more neutrality maybe :unsure:

But i didn´t see in the last updates a crearly favoritism from the dev for femdom stuff, but tbh i think femdom have more content in the reality than maledom, i think the femdom world is bigger in things that can happen.
 

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Dunno, isn't there enough content for everyone?
Emma has a dom path in which you degrade her.
Jen wants you to be a dom.
Kim is your partner in crime and likes it if you ake charge and fuck her.
Leah is a bit neutral, but it can also line up with a dominant male fucking and teaching her.
Olivia and Bri are neutral. You don't need to be a sub to fuck them.
Deb is the sole case in which the dom path sucks. I consider her to be the best option for the sub path, anyway, so the dom path is just a bonus, if not overly good.
You likely get Paige later on and dom her, but that may not be most cup of tea.


Didn't include chapter 7, but it seems fairly even (aside from Deb):

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I assume you've missed most of the discussion around this topic then. The statement about it being skewed is that the "dom MC" is for the most part written from the perspective of a sub/beta, he comes of as insecure, passive. As if he tries to play the role of what he has read a dom is, without embracing any of the ideals, beliefs. So even the supposed "dom routes" leaves you with this slighly sickening, subby feeling. The actual scenes with Emma are quite good, but lose alot due to the MCs whimpy attitude and selfdoubting inner monologue. Not gonna touch on the Jen content since that is an absolute shit show.
So to some extent the dom routes very much feel like they've been written for a sub player, at the very least by a sub player.
 
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I think my biggest critique of this game so far is the Olivia path. It is too slow, only two chapters and some epilogues left and we haven't gotten a proper scene with her, I am not counting the 4some. At this point it is just such a let down for arguably my third, maybe 4th favorite character in this game. Even Bri,s route started late, and she is getting a decent amount of scenes now. It is just a let down, I wish the dev treated Olivia better.
 

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I assume you've missed most of the discussion around this topic then. The statement about it being skewed is that the "dom MC" is for the most part written from the perspective of a sub/beta, he comes of as insecure, passive. As if he tries to play the role of what he has read a dom is, without embracing any of the ideals, beliefs. So even the supposed "dom routes" leaves you with this slighly sickening, subby feeling. The actual scenes with Emma are quite good, but lose alot due to the MCs whimpy attitude and selfdoubting inner monologue. Not gonna touch on the Jen content since that is an absolute shit show.
So to some extent the dom routes very much feel like they've been written for a sub player, at the very least by a sub player.
Fair enough. MC is consistently a pretty whimpy, people pleaser and hardly a veteran chad standing his ground. Good example is the start of this update with the MC hanging around at a girl night and just accommodating everything they say.

Is his dating argument that a small number of males hord most females valid or just some incel whining?


Best is dom Kim path in which he is an asshole to everyone, but he keeps that secret, so his self-interest and playing everyone isn't conveyed when he is still people pleasing his friends.
 
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The reason this update was bad, is because it was a fucking mess with endless typos.

It honestly makes me think the dev isn't a native English speaker with how bad this shit was to read. The entire emma sub scene had so many fucking typos and basic grammatical sentence errors that it would have been impossible that a native English speaker would let this go.

Also he's been dragging way too long on this entire game. Updates are constantly late. The dev just feels done with it by this point. Which is sad. The release schedule between 2022 and 2023 was so sparse that it really hurt the development. I think we waited like 8 months for a single update.

I'm probably going to cancel my patreon at this point.
 

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I assume you've missed most of the discussion around this topic then. The statement about it being skewed is that the "dom MC" is for the most part written from the perspective of a sub/beta, he comes of as insecure, passive. As if he tries to play the role of what he has read a dom is, without embracing any of the ideals, beliefs. So even the supposed "dom routes" leaves you with this slighly sickening, subby feeling. The actual scenes with Emma are quite good, but lose alot due to the MCs whimpy attitude and selfdoubting inner monologue. Not gonna touch on the Jen content since that is an absolute shit show.
So to some extent the dom routes very much feel like they've been written for a sub player, at the very least by a sub player.
The problem is avns are notoriously bad at depicting actual confident behavior - usually they're either this, where it's too much introspection, or over-the-top defensiveness and insecurity with mate guarding or other affronts.

The only games I've seen capture a true alpha attitude are those party-style games where mc just doesn't give a fuck, stuff like Solvalley school; like the whole thing is a big joke to him.

Thus I cut this dev some slack, at least he tries to put in multiple lengthy paths.
 
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The only games I've seen capture a true alpha attitude are those party-style games where mc just doesn't give a fuck, stuff like Solvalley school; like the whole thing is a big joke to him.
Thx for the tip. Unfortunately it's a HS game so I never bothered to try it, while writing/story is key it atleast has to look somewhat decent for me to play :/
 
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Dessolos

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Thx for the tip. Unfortunately it's a HS game so I never bothered to try it, while writing/story is key it atleast has to look somewhat decent for me to play :/
Unless you just hate that art style yeah HS games are hit or miss when it comes to looks ive seen some that look better than this game graphically at least to me.
 

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The reason this update was bad, is because it was a fucking mess with endless typos.

It honestly makes me think the dev isn't a native English speaker with how bad this shit was to read. The entire emma sub scene had so many fucking typos and basic grammatical sentence errors that it would have been impossible that a native English speaker would let this go.
Hi. I've been doing the proofreading and editor role for this game since just after ch1 was released.

Ch7 pt 2 has been the most troubled release so far, and it is my understanding that this was largely due to unavoidable real-life issues encountered by the Dev. In amongst the chaos, unfortunately there was not an opportunity for me to do a proofread pass of any of the added/changed contents.

I would suggest that dissatisfaction with the quality of this release is more related to the extremely high expectations that the preceding 6 chapters has established - in 95+% of other games, this level of product would be considered exceptional. It in is the nature of being one of the best that any deviation from the previous heights is painfully obvious in comparison. A return to the mean is in some ways inevitable.

For my part, I encourage and support the Dev to keep at it and bring this amazing complex story to a satisfying conclusion.

Regarding plans to improve the text issues in the Ch7pt2 release: I have now received both the release version archive and the source code files, so I have been able to start the review process. Once I complete my part (which takes 1-4 weeks depending on the size of the chapter) typically there will be a patch version released with the edited scripts.

The Dev is definitely not a native speaker and is certainly aware of the difficulty in writing grammatically correct vernacular English, and this is why he has invited me to be involved in the process. I remain extremely impressed by the effort and quality of the creative content that he has given us all, and especially by the sheer volume of effort that has gone into this project. As I like to repeatedly point out, the total word count of this game is now around 2/3rds of the total words count of the Lord of the Rings novel trilogy.

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Unrelated to the above:
The unreasonable repeated negativity from a recent frequent poster in this thread has earned that person a place on my ignore list. How pleasant for me to no longer have to endure another entitled, whiny, serial complainer clogging my feeds.
I recommend that everyone should make use of the Ignore functionality of this forum, it improves the experience greatly.
 
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Unrelated to the above:
The unreasonable repeated negativity from a recent frequent poster in this thread has earned that person a place on my ignore list. How pleasant for me to no longer have to endure another entitled, whiny, serial complainer clogging my feeds.
I recommend that everyone should make use of the Ignore functionality of this forum, it improves the experience greatly.
I have to agree on the "ignore" function, but it depends on the threads in question if it is needed. Among my watched threads there are some where I never had to use it, on some I used it repeatedly. I have around 6 pages of watched threads and all the people of my ignore list come from 3 threads of these, I think that says much.
 
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