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Message Maven
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Can someone else pick the game up and continue making it?
The dev is still working on this. Well, "working on" actually means fussing over it not being perfect and so reworking again and again. But since the dev is still actively doing stuff with this, no: nobody else should pick the game up to do anything with it. At least, not unless they want to risk a lawsuit or something. (Don't actually know whether Enyo Eerie would file one, but does another dev really want to risk that?)
 

packor

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normal copyright law.
if you didn't register it, then you didn't make it. You can argue otherwise, but good luck proving it.

It's not even a good idea. They'd probably get sued by the Olsen twins instead.
 

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lol, wat makes you believe they have any legal right over this work?
:LOL: Says someone who clearly knows very little about copyright and how it actually works.
if you didn't register it, then you didn't make it. You can argue otherwise, but good luck proving it.

It's not even a good idea. They'd probably get sued by the Olsen twins instead.
Further demonstrating your ignorance. It all depends on the jurisdiction you're in. For instance, in the United States, you don't actually have to have registered something for it to be copyrighted (see ; or, from the actual , though less conveniently divided). Registration is used to make it much easier to prove your ownership of copyright in a court of law; that's it.

Enyo Eerie has timestamps — on Patreon, on this site, etc. — showing that his work greatly predates anyone trying to steal this from him. That alone would be proof enough in a court of law that the later work does not have claim to copyright. Again, it depends on jurisdiction, but I would imagine international law is at least somewhat similar.
 

packor

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:LOL: Says someone who clearly knows very little about copyright and how it actually works.

Further demonstrating your ignorance. It all depends on the jurisdiction you're in. For instance, in the United States, you don't actually have to have registered something for it to be copyrighted (see ). Enyo Eerie also has timestamps — on Patreon, on this site, etc. — showing that he work greatly predates anyone trying to steal this from him. That alone would be proof enough in a court of law. Again, it depends on jurisdiction, but I would imagine international law is at least somewhat similar.
if you didn't register it, then you didn't make it. You can argue otherwise, but good luck proving it.
 

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You can talk about proving otherwise or not all you want. Your statement about registration being required is blatantly false; I already linked two different sources proving you're wrong. Again, you're just showing that you know nothing. But I'm done discussing this. This is starting to go off-topic. I recommend you learn actual law before you try making any legal argument in the future.
 

packor

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You can talk about proving otherwise or not all you want. Your statement about registration being required is blatantly false; I already linked two different sources proving you're wrong. Again, you're just showing that you know nothing. But I'm done discussing this. This is starting to go off-topic. I recommend you learn actual law before you try making any legal argument in the future.
okay, Mr. internet lawyer. You're not an actual lawyer, so don't pretend to be. Anyone can look up copyright and paste the same %^&* you did, but you have no clue how the law actually works in practice. I guarantee you 100% that anyone can rip off this game right now and Enyo can do nothing about it.
 

margemaghzi

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The dev is still working on this. Well, "working on" actually means fussing over it not being perfect and so reworking again and again. But since the dev is still actively doing stuff with this, no: nobody else should pick the game up to do anything with it. At least, not unless they want to risk a lawsuit or something. (Don't actually know whether Enyo Eerie would file one, but does another dev really want to risk that?)
Thanks for your reply.
However, do we have legit news that the dev is still working on false hero? They even shut down his Patreon account. has he even posted anything in the last 2 years on any platform?
 
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Message Maven
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Thanks for your reply.
However, do we have legit news that the dev is still working on false hero? They even shut down his Patreon account. has he even posted anything in the last 2 years on any platform?
Ah, that's a good point. I had assumed, based on his history in working on this game. But I'm on his Discord and don't see anything newer than 2023. It's definitely possible that he's abandoned it, although I'd say it's equally possible that he's still working on it. I should've said, "I believe the dev is still working on this." What I said above about copyright would still apply — despite what the arguer I put on Ignore might claim — but at this point he might not even pursue anyone trying to steal his work. Then again, does anyone really want to proclaim themselves so uncreative that they have to try to steal this instead of just coming up with their own idea?
 

margemaghzi

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in case anyone has communication channels with him, like an email or phone number, it is possible to reach him and potentially get his permission for continuing the game in case he doesn't want to advance it further. I mean this would require someone who is capable of making such games (tech-wise) and is interested in doing so.
 

cxx

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in case anyone has communication channels with him, like an email or phone number,
doubt it, all devs keep their privacy tight and at most tell where they live and have support email on website (if has 1).

doubt there are any willing to continue this.
 

Ahegaosm

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This game has been marked abandoned for well over a year, more afair. Definitely worth being picked up and remade in newer engine with all the content it deserves. full 3d unity with character customization would take it to next level
 

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This game has been marked abandoned for well over a year, more afair. Definitely worth being picked up and remade in newer engine with all the content it deserves. full 3d unity with character customization would take it to next level
And what, exactly, would the benefit of choosing Unity specifically bring? This isn't the type of game where you need to run around to discover things or whatever.
 

artofwar

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You're huffing some seriously strong copium if you think the guy is working on anything to do with this. WRT copyright, you have automatic copyright on any unique expression you create in most (if not all?) places around the world. Unique expression meaning the renders, essentially. He may have copyright over any unique models/textures - depending on licensing terms etc.

That said, anyone is free to recreate them, and as long as you don't use any copyrighted works while doing so then you'll own the copyright to what you create. From there any renders you create using them will of course be yours as each one is a unique expression. The story? Unless you copy it word for word then there shouldn't be too much of an issue there - but why would you want to, and which version of the story would you use lol?

The easiest way of thinking about copyright for me is a photograph - it's the photograph as a whole that has copyright. Anyone can go to the same place and set up the same scene, at the same time of day and take their own photograph - they would own the copyright for the new photograph, you retain copyright for yours.

It's a bit of a moot point, though, as anyone with both the skill and the inclination to do so will almost certainly prefer working on their own projects.
 

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It's a bit of a moot point, though, as anyone with both the skill and the inclination to do so will almost certainly prefer working on their own projects.
Precisely. Plus, there is a practical element to the whole copy right question, available resources are the primary influencing element when it comes to infringing or protecting intellectual property. At the end of the day, very few adult visual novels generate enough money to feed one person, Daz assets, pay for electricity, rent, computer equipment, child support... etc. Taking action on another actor using your IP costs money, alot of money, and probably said actor dosn't have any money to begin with, so...
I mean don't go ripping off Dr. Pinkcake. They have money.

I really encourage anyone who wants to fuck around with it, to give writing something in this "universe" a shot. Enyo was always pretty engaging with anyone who showed interest in doing things with him.


 
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