MilesEdgeworth

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She entered the room and shot him a glance... she was literally calling him inside. And if she really didn't want to start it, she would have made him leave. That's just her trying to remain prim and proper out of practice, since she is still not used to being sexual.
Pleeeeease, don't tell you really think she is NOT wanting to do him here. She literally give him the 'fuck me eyes' before entering, that is basically she telling him to ravage her.

It's Jill we are talking about, she is not as vocal with what she wants like other characters and the MC got used to reading her body and her actions. Plus he is way less pushy with this types of things with Jill than other characters, he would be jumping Sage and Bella as soon as they gave him the same look since he knew what it meant for example. Which is why he tested the waters before jumping to it.

And that's the problem with you people, it's not me giving her more credit than she is due, it's you guys giving her NO credit at all. I've had a similar discussion during episode 10 with someone because I said Jill instigated Trent to talk about Tybalt and that person was adamant that she was just making small talk and discovered it on acident.
She have this malice, she is still bad at flirting, but she still try to flirt with the MC and sure as heck, she was feeling good about herself after trying the new clothes and seeing that resembled her sister and was feeling adventurous so she "invited" the MC in... was she wanting sex? I don't know, maybe she just wanted to make out, but she sure as heck was also feeling horny since she didn't resist it either which means the thought crossed her mind and she was quickly to dismiss it.
The debate was if she initiated it. Whether or not she wanted to fuck is irrelevant. MC initiated it, and Jill was legit shocked when he did so. Yes, she went along with it once MC did so, but to say that she didn't initiate it doesn't deny or ignore Jill's development; it's just stating facts.
 

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Yes and no. Yes, that I agree that's probably what it is, and it would initially surprise Maya after stumbling onto it. But no, that it doesn't really justify the reaction Maya and MC have (except a Bella!MC). Bella's reaction, yes. That's why some people take it a step farther and say it's more of a shrine.
I'm more in favour of a conspiracy theory tracking room. String and photos everywhere kind of deal. James was trying to make sense of corruption and disappeared when he got too close to the truth. What Bella doesn't realise is that B&R is involved in this corruption and that they hired her so they could get to whatever evidence James might have at the house.
 
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The lost son theory was the better one, but that was before James' fate was however superficially, addressed. Starting from the fact that James is away because he is stuck/disappeared somewhere, what is the point of adding drama in the past? Even if it was why he left, it is more important why he did not return.
It would completely diminish the drama of Bella's confession, unless it turns out to have been a half-truth like the one about school regulations. If what Bella told us is true, and I hope it is, the point is to find out James' fate. Any earlier drama would only be an addition. Until it was conceivable that James was simply gone, the lost son was the perfect solution, now much less so
Unless DPC really goes the braindead route and has James' corpse in the locked room, it is its own separate mystery from his fate. Baby room, memorial to James, sex dungeon, it requires an independent answer.
I'm more in favour of a conspiracy theory tracking room. String and photos everywhere kind of deal. James was trying to make sense of corruption and disappeared when he got too close to the truth. What Bella doesn't realise is that B&R is involved in this corruption and that they hired her so they could get to whatever evidence James might have at the house.
But it's been three years and only Bella's bitches (and Cathy) seem to be the only ones who have set foot in her home the entire time.
 

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Unless DPC really goes the braindead route and has James' corpse in the locked room, it is its own separate mystery from his fate. Baby room, memorial to James, sex dungeon, it requires an independent answer.

But it's been three years and only Bella's bitches (and Cathy) seem to be the only ones who have set foot in her home the entire time.
Ah, but Stephen who is absolutely part of the corruption is definitely trying to get in there.
 

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Unless DPC really goes the braindead route and has James' corpse in the locked room, it is its own separate mystery from his fate. Baby room, memorial to James, sex dungeon, it requires an independent answer.
It is not even a mystery, it is a "curiosity." The important question is what he went to do and why he did not return. The possible reason why he went is quite irrelevant. Let's pretend it's really a room of a lost son, what difference does it make? Bella will tell this dramatic experience of her, and we are right back where we started. A dramatic moment with no consequences.
 
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Yes but that would be what we call "sensible" and this is BADIK.
Suspension of disbelief is relative to the story being told, and Stephen is an intelligent enough man to realize that 3 years of trying to charm his way into her house, or whatever else he's attempted, is not working. MC made his way into Stephen's home almost as fast as he did Bella's :BootyTime:
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It is not even a mystery, it is a "curiosity." The important question is what he went to do and why he did not return. The possible reason why he went is quite irrelevant. Let's pretend it's really a room of a lost son, what difference does it make? Bella will tell this dramatic experience of her, and we are right back where we started. A dramatic moment with no consequences.
No difference to the story, just to Bella as a character, and her interactions on her path.
 
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