Kodek

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Well there is no reason for lilly to cheat. There is no evidence for her and neither is there for Ashley. Its way more likey for Sally to be the cheater. None of the other two had those opportunities Sally had. The only reach here is if you think its Ashley or Lilly. But yeah we can agree to disagree. Time will tell. Hopefully not in another 10 episodes.
Sally was not taking the the test with the MC and the rest of the people from Math and English intro how the fuck is she the cheater here?! Why would the cheats have answers for a test she was not even taking? And why Ashley be me reaching? We have no evidence that Ashley is actually a good student apart from Bella saying she is top of her class which would be easily explained if she was a cheater.
 

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Well there is no reason for lilly to cheat. There is no evidence for her and neither is there for Ashley. Its way more likey for Sally to be the cheater. None of the other two had those opportunities Sally had. The only reach here is if you think its Ashley or Lilly. But yeah we can agree to disagree. Time will tell. Hopefully not in another 10 episodes.
Yeah sorry to say but it won't be Sally that'll be revealed as the cheater. She clearly shows capacity for learning under the right teacher/tutor. And when she does the final part of the writing for science without MC's input, Nora herself said that they got the top grade for it all.

This is the same Sally that struggled at the science class during the lab section btw. How would she go from "idk wtf is going on" to "alright I get it, thanks for explaining it to me"? Someone who was known for cheating for a long time would have more impaired learning.

Sally is the red herring and you're taking the bait for it, just like there were many that took the bait with Nick prior to Episode 11.
 

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You've gotta take a mushroom and like Bloodguard said it's completely random whether you get it or not.

Here's a tip (when you get to the BBQ, use URM or console commands to change "ep10_ufo" to 51, it will probably be 377. If it's already 51 you're golden).

This will force the scene to happen, then just head out to the jetty to check it out.
Sweet thx a bunch
 

BigTTiger

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You've gotta take a mushroom and like Bloodguard said it's completely random whether you get it or not.

Here's a tip (when you get to the BBQ, use URM or console commands to change "ep10_ufo" to 51, it will probably be 377. If it's already 51 you're golden).

This will force the scene to happen, then just head out to the jetty to check it out.
Do i have to include the quotation marks as well in the code line?
 

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So that student that cheated NEEDS to go at the MC's class. That's the point. That's the whole point. It does not matter the other tests, the cheater HAD to be taking the same exam as the MC, it does not matter if they cheated more or less classes.

Heck, they could've been taking multiple more classes on top of the intro ones.
Im not sure why the student who cheated NEEDED to be in MCS class - The cheat sheet might have been designed for the exam the preceded MC's (unlikely the cheats would have been disposed of) or an exam that followed it (possible and they were just planted earlier in the day) again reaching... but its not really a given that the cheater HAD to be in one of MCs classes

I will admit that is probably likely that the cheater is in fact in the MCs class, but its definitely not a forgone conclusion
 
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Im not sure why the student who cheated NEEDED to be in MCS class - The cheat sheet might have been designed for the exam the preceded MC's (unlikely the cheats would have been disposed of) or an exam that followed it (possible and they were just planted earlier in the day) again reaching... but its not really a given that the cheater HAD to be in one of MCs classes

I will admit that is probably likely that the cheater is in fact in the MCs class, but its definitely not a forgone conclusion
Why would someone design a cheat sheet for a exam they won't be taking? Isn't this way more reaching than what I said?
Also, the student that cheated would need to be sure in which class the tests were being taken to plant it beforehand which is plausible, but are you saying ALL of their tests have been in that room? All of them? Not just the intro for math and english, but all of them?
 

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Yeah sorry to say but it won't be Sally that'll be revealed as the cheater. She clearly shows capacity for learning under the right teacher/tutor. And when she does the final part of the writing for science without MC's input, Nora herself said that they got the top grade for it all.

This is the same Sally that struggled at the science class during the lab section btw. How would she go from "idk wtf is going on" to "alright I get it, thanks for explaining it to me"? Someone who was known for cheating for a long time would have more impaired learning.

Sally is the red herring and you're taking the bait for it, just like there were many that took the bait with Nick prior to Episode 11.
It does not matter if she have the capacity a lot of people have the capacity to do well in life but they don't. It's that simple
 
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of course he did. Did you play without minigames ?
You don't buy cheats from him. You buy notes from him that help you with tests. The one who sells you actual cheats is Derek but he claims it's a "learning" thing. Even Maya calls him out for being a cheater MORE than once.

Magnar selling notes boosts your score, it doesn't let you literally cheat for the tests.
 

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Why would someone design a cheat sheet for a exam they won't be taking? Isn't this way more reaching than what I said?
Also, the student that cheated would need to be sure in which class the tests were being taken to plant it beforehand which is plausible, but are you saying ALL of their tests have been in that room? All of them? Not just the intro for math and english, but all of them?
As I said, the key phrase was what the MC said "They had the answers to many questions and plenty more on top of that." while it may well have been designed for the MC's test, it had more so could quite easily be designed for another test.

And I am only going of my own personal experience, but yes my School and colleges only had one Exam hall and every exam was taken there Maths, Science, German. If you were taking an exam you were in that room
 
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of course he did. Did you play without minigames ?
I did and I never read anything about Magnar selling cheats in any moment of the game.
I bought the Note perk from him and also had the option to buy old notes and booster that would help the initial percentage of the tests... the one selling cheats was Derek.
 

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As I said, the key phrase was what the MC said "They had the answers to many questions and plenty more on top of that." while it may well have been designed for the MC's test, it had more so could quite easily be designed for another test.

And I am only going of my own personal experience, but yes my School and colleges only had one Exam hall and every exam was taken there Maths, Science, German. If you were taking an exam you were in that room
Again, why would you design a cheat sheet that had answers for a test you were not taking? That does not make any fricking sense.

It does not matter how many answers the cheat had, all that matter is that it had the answers for both intro tests the MC was taking, meaning the cheater had to also be taking those two tests, otherwise it does not make sense.
 
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You don't buy cheats from him. You buy notes from him that help you with tests. The one who sells you actual cheats is Derek but he claims it's a "learning" thing. Even Maya calls him out for being a cheater MORE than once.

Magnar selling notes boosts your score, it doesn't let you literally cheat for the tests.
Those are cheats. Look at english when you use the cheat it gives you some the words. That is cheating. You are the one collecting the notes for Magnar and then he sells you the cheats. That is made clear right in EP1 in the library. Go to any educational institution and if they catch you it will be for cheating. They won't call it notes.
 

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Again, why would you design a cheat sheet that had answers for a test you were not taking? That does not make any fricking sense.

It does not matter how many answers the cheat had, all that matter is that it had the answers for both intro tests the MC was taking, meaning the cheater had to also be taking those two tests, otherwise it does not make sense.
Well the thing is you wouldn't actually know what is going to be on the exam when making a cheat sheet, so generally you'd put whatever you think is important... which in the case of the Cheater being in the MCs class is why it had more than was needed. Or in the case of the Cheater being in another class had things that could be applied to the MCs test.

Again Im not saying specifically that the Cheater was definitely not in MCs class, but there are reasons to think otherwise.
 

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I think cheater could be from tri betas, Magnar blackmails them to do his bidding or else he won't provide them with cheats/study material. Not necessarily that Sally is cheater but could be someone like Ron, didn't he claim he at best B+/-?
 

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Those are cheats. Look at english when you use the cheat it gives you some the words. That is cheating. You are the one collecting the notes for Magnar and then he sells you the cheats. That is made clear right in EP1 in the library. Go to any educational institution and if they catch you it will be for cheating. They won't call it notes.
...Brother that is literally Derek...What on earth are you on about?

:FacePalm: :KEK:
 
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Kodek

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Those are cheats. Look at english when you use the cheat it gives you some the words. That is cheating. You are the one collecting the notes for Magnar and then he sells you the cheats. That is made clear right in EP1 in the library. Go to any educational institution and if they catch you it will be for cheating. They won't call it notes.
The one that rises the cheating points is Derek not Magnar.
Magnar boosters rises the initial percentage of the tests, meaning it was notes that helped MC study and the test would be easier. I think you just need to replay the game at this point dude
 

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Those are cheats. Look at english when you use the cheat it gives you some the words. That is cheating. You are the one collecting the notes for Magnar and then he sells you the cheats. That is made clear right in EP1 in the library. Go to any educational institution and if they catch you it will be for cheating. They won't call it notes.
No its Dereks Cheats that give you the words... Magnars boosts don't work like that.
 
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