Why does it seem like so many devs are averse to impregnation?

Your thoughts on pregnancy? (can pick multiple: ex. you like impregnation but dislike pregnancy sex)

  • I like pregnancy sex

    Votes: 37 56.1%
  • I like impregnation

    Votes: 46 69.7%
  • I like seeing pregnancy in the epilogue or towards the end of the game

    Votes: 29 43.9%
  • I like seeing pregnancy in the game as early as possible

    Votes: 23 34.8%
  • I don't like impregnation

    Votes: 7 10.6%
  • I don't like pregnancy sex

    Votes: 9 13.6%
  • I don't like seeing pregnancy even in just an epilogue

    Votes: 4 6.1%
  • I don't like seeing pregnant characters in the main part of the game

    Votes: 8 12.1%
  • I agree and dislike creampies being undercut

    Votes: 16 24.2%
  • I disagree, what you call "undercutting," the moment doesn't bother me

    Votes: 4 6.1%

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peterppp

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I believe this is likely the single biggest reason why many devs do it the way they're doing it. It's a sad truth that many men have absolutely no idea how it works. You'd be mindblown by the amount of men who think they can get a chick pregnant 24/7. That might aswell apply to a good portion of women out there.

(talking about the usual "No worries, I'm on the pill" dialogue or the "OH NO, I need to take the day-after pill")
if the woman takes the pill, there is very low risk of making her pregnant.
if she doesn't take the pill, there is high risk of making her pregnant

but because it isn't a guarantee to become pregnant without the pill, it is not a very good idea to take the pill?
:WaitWhat:
our society is arguably becoming more stupid with every passing generation.
as you are proof of
 

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I know lots of reason why full pregnancy isn't included in many games, you all touched on more of them, but the real question is why do so many devs have dialogue that undercuts even the illusion of choice mattering and other things that undercut even the head cannon possibility of pregnancy? Why have forced pull out, forced condoms, forced talks about pills and such when as a dev you can just never have the girl get pregnant or have the discussion elsewhere besides the sex scene itself.
Because they are not into it? They don't want to deal with the implications of pregnancy and how it would affect the game progression if one of the girls gets pregnant. It's more time-efficient to assume the girls took the pills. The ramifications of a pregnancy can be severe if the MC intends to take care of the child. Only devs intending to go deeper into this kink are willing to do this.

Imagine having this talk with EVERY girl you come across into, I'm not even sure how much you guys get into that discussion in real life (don't ask me. I'm gay). And I'm not even getting into the subject of a female MC and pregnancy, which should be a game changer.

However, I'm planning to add a male pregnancy route in my next game. Advantages of using Sims 4 as base.
 

palmtrees89

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It's not about belief in a 100% chance of pregnancy, it's about risk. Would you feel safe drinking a cup of water contaminated with ebola just because infection isn't guaranteed?

The only problem with this comparison is how it doesn't accurately reflect the horror of pregnancy.
No I wouldn't, but what exactly is your point? Or rather... How is what you said related to people having no clue how it works thus resorting to mostly the same dialogue options in games? :unsure:
 
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palmtrees89

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if the woman takes the pill, there is very low risk of making her pregnant.
if she doesn't take the pill, there is high risk of making her pregnant

but because it isn't a guarantee to become pregnant without the pill, it is not a very good idea to take the pill?
:WaitWhat:

as you are proof of
Are you for real? You didn't understand at all what I was saying. I guess we have an upset TikTok fan at hand.
 

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I can only speak for myself.

I had a character impregnated in the first chapter. It evolves over the course of my VN to the point of giving birth. It was difficult to show this and not make it look campy, but also make you, the player feel like Nora's baby was YOUR CHILD...

When "The Futa Strikes Back" happens, it's going to be apart of this character's story her new found parental responsibilities given her character in Hope Awakens... Also, the evolving pregnancies of those you impregnated in Hope Awakens.

Not every dev wants to do this... It's a lot of work to care about a fetish like this...
 

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Most of the time, it is time consuming. Haveing pregnancy is often optional, so you need to have two paths. If you have more then one charachters, the pathing that can happen will get you a headache at a good day.

Example 1 (very basic):
4 character than can be pregnant or not, no different pregancy stage that needs different images - thus overall only 2 images are needed by one single character (pregnat or not). If all of the 4 characters are in the same render (prerendering images not for such games that can render the scene on time) you end up with 2^4=16 possible combination.

Example 2 (extended):
4 character than can be pregnant or not, with each 3 stage of pregnancy that needs different images, also 4 different images per character. Also they aren't timed together, so one character can need preg2 image, where the other (pregnant) charachter can need preg1 images.
If all of the 4 characters are in the same render (prerendering images not for such games that can render the scene on time) you end up with 4^4=256 possible combination.
I agree!

I don't think it's because devs don't like it as a possibility, but I think it's because it kind of becomes a sandbox kind of game at that point, unless it's something specific lay scripted into the game at some point.

It could wreck the story, double the art, complicate scenes that it shouldn't exist at, and then ultimately it has to end somewhere somehow.

I know in the games I've played with pregnancy the birth is generally an all inclusive nursery where the babies are taken away, if such a thing exists.

I think the reality is pregnancy is probably the end of your female character. Once they have the baby that life of adventure would probably end and the father would have to pony up or deadbeat it.

The amount of mechanics for it to be done right is very tough. Half assing it is even tough. Handling it with real or cartoon senses is complex. Not only art wise but code wise and story wise.

I'd love to see it more but I think the reality is it's not something your average dev wants to mess with due to the impossibly deep and complicated nature of the whole thing and the tremendous work to get it even kind of right.

Unless, again, it's just part of the story and forced at a very specific time that can't be avoided, then it shouldn't be as a big deal because it's a set scene and all other scenes after it aren't dynamic. You just got to do the art to fit the scenes you made.
 
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Are you for real? You didn't understand at all what I was saying. I guess we have an upset TikTok fan at hand.
apparently fzeren didnt understand you at all either because he brought up the same point as i did. so no, i dont understand what you were saying if that was not what you were saying. so what were you saying?
 
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MissCougar

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I believe this is likely the single biggest reason why many devs do it the way they're doing it. It's a sad truth that many men have absolutely no idea how it works. You'd be mindblown by the amount of men who think they can get a chick pregnant 24/7. That might aswell apply to a good portion of women out there.

(talking about the usual "No worries, I'm on the pill" dialogue or the "OH NO, I need to take the day-after pill")

Sex-ed is hardly existent in most countries and our society is arguably becoming more stupid with every passing generation. TIKTOK BRO.
Hah.

Also agree. I don't think a lot of game devs annd artists even know how a vagina works much less how their biology works.

However just to add to this, I know lots of women who also are clueless. I do think society is taking a hit and I blame Twitter as the first movement against people being able to focus on something with words more than 50 words in it, but that's how it goes. Long live TikTok! :ROFLMAO:
 

JoeTheMC84

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It's not about belief in a 100% chance of pregnancy, it's about risk. Would you feel safe drinking a cup of water contaminated with ebola just because infection isn't guaranteed?

The only problem with this comparison is how it doesn't accurately reflect the horror of pregnancy.
That's part of the point, in a game there is actually zero risk unless the dev plans there to be pregnancy, so why undercut player agency to at least pretend and have the illusion of their choice mattering?

Not to start an argument, so feel free to not click this, but the "horrors," of pregnancy are not a thing. Swollen ankles, mild back pain, and a few weeks of morning sickness (on average as some women never have it) aren't any worse than getting the flu a couple of times in a row. Anti-natalism makes women think getting pregnant will destroy their life, but for all of human history is was seen a good thing. A few weeks of pretty bad, and a few months of mild discomfort, were worth the joy of having a baby. So while I don't want to get bogged down in a IRL discussion, because in a game none of those horrors would be a thing anyway, the same way in 99% of games no one poops. After all one persons horror like scat could be someone else's kink, :ROFLMAO:

Well, that's easier to answer. Implementing a pregnancy system in a game, or a route in a vm is a huge amount of extra work, you gotta have artwork of the girl pregnant, artwork of sex with the girl pregnant,artwork of the child, and so on.

It's non-trivial to add, which is why nobody adds it unless they planned for it from day 1.

But in the example you gave it's possible the creator plans to add it, but it's an incomplete early version game and since it's not in yet he doesn't give you the option to go that route yet.

Adding impregnation is a big deal, it's more work than just about any other fetish in a lot of cases. In some cases (like say 3d games, or 2d games that use sprites like say monster black market) it can be a bit easier, if still non-trivial (mind you monster black market's gameplay is about the impregnation in the first place).
It is a good question, there aren't many games with impregnation, at least talking about AVN. Maybe is because dealing with it's effects is difficult. What are you gonna do with an optional kid growing in a story about mafia? Something like that would change the story a lot so... In any case, more to playerbase for us.
I agree!

I don't think it's because devs don't like it as a possibility, but I think it's because it kind of becomes a sandbox kind of game at that point, unless it's something specific lay scripted into the game at some point.

It could wreck the story, double the art, complicate scenes that it shouldn't exist at, and then ultimately it has to end somewhere somehow.

I know in the games I've played with pregnancy the birth is generally an all inclusive nursery where the babies are taken away, if such a thing exists.

I think the reality is pregnancy is probably the end of your female character. Once they have the baby that life of adventure would probably end and the father would have to pony up or deadbeat it.

The amount of mechanics for it to be done right is very tough. Half assing it is even tough. Handling it with real or cartoon senses is complex. Not only art wise but code wise and story wise.

I'd love to see it more but I think the reality is it's not something your average dev wants to mess with due to the impossibly deep and complicated nature of the whole thing and the tremendous work to get it even kind of right.

Unless, again, it's just part of the story and forced at a very specific time that can't be avoided, then it shouldn't be as a big deal because it's a set scene and all other scenes after it aren't dynamic. You just got to do the art to fit the scenes you made.
It still seems something is still being lost or missed. The point isn't not implementing full pregnancy, that I 100% understand. It's when devs undercut impregnation while still allowing it be possible to creampie and such. Especially in small scale games. Games where the whole story only last like a few months there is no reason to undercut impregnation or "avoid it" since it wouldn't even come up, a girl could feasible be pregnant for two months before even knowing she is pregnant if she isn't paying attention. A bit rare but it takes a month before she might even miss a period, and again that assumes she even gets knocked up at all, which isn't guaranteed. My issue isn't with devs not implementing pregnancy, but in them undercutting even the possibility of me having a head cannon that it could possible one day happen...

Still, interesting points of view on the topic of full pregnancy. I do wonder what all of your points of view are on dialogue and forced stuff that undercuts (in my mind anyway) player agency and is really unnecessary in the first place. Forced pullout, forced condoms, and talk about pills and such.

Because they are not into it? They don't want to deal with the implications of pregnancy and how it would affect the game progression if one of the girls gets pregnant. It's more time-efficient to assume the girls took the pills. The ramifications of a pregnancy can be severe if the MC intends to take care of the child. Only devs intending to go deeper into this kink are willing to do this.

Imagine having this talk with EVERY girl you come across into, I'm not even sure how much you guys get into that discussion in real life (don't ask me. I'm gay). And I'm not even getting into the subject of a female MC and pregnancy, which should be a game changer.

However, I'm planning to add a male pregnancy route in my next game. Advantages of using Sims 4 as base.
I'd agree that devs and players could just assume the girls are on the pill, but I have seen games where devs have this type of dialogue after nearly every sex scene, sometimes even with the same girl more than once, :LOL:

If I had my way all possibilities of pregnancy would be removed and not even mentioned in games. I get that people have kinks, but I have five damn grandkids. I win. Go away.
Interestingly enough, you seem to be in agreement with me. It would be better if devs don't plan to have pregnancy then removing the talk about it would be a good. No need to undercut the creampies with talk of not having it and have it be assumed that there won't be any unless stated otherwise. Seems like it would be the better way to do it, no?
 
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apparently fzeren didnt understand you at all either because he brought up the same point as i did. so no, i dont understand what you were saying if that was not what you were saying. so what were you saying?
I've been talking about the dialogue options provided by most devs in games, not if taking the pill is better or not. Most male developers tend to believe a creampie means imminent death. Hence why I said many devs don't quite seem to understand how female bodies work. Never said there's no risk involved. Never said taking the pill is bad.

Basically this goes back to the thread's title and giving people who are into impregnation kinks some room for head cinema. Maybe I worded it in a way that wasn't too obvious?
 
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Interestingly enough, you seem to be in agreement with me. It would be better if devs don't plan to have pregnancy then removing the talk about it would be a good. No need to undercut the creampies with talk of not having it and have it be assumed that there won't be any unless stated otherwise. Seems like it would be the better way to do it, no?
Absolutely agree there. Paying lip service to a kink that you don't have can be more annoying than not.
 

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I've been talking about the dialogue options provided by most devs in games, not if taking the pill is better or not. Most male developers tend to believe a creampie means imminent death. Hence why I said many devs don't quite seem to understand how female bodies work. Never said there's no risk involved. Never said taking the pill is bad.

Basically this goes back to the thread's title and giving people who are into impregnation kinks some room for head cinema. Maybe I worded it in a way that wasn't too obvious?
1) but you didnt provided any reason or evidence for why you think "Most male developers tend to believe a creampie means imminent deathmost" or "many devs don't quite seem to understand how female bodies work"...

2) ... except - it seems - those "dont worry, i'm on the pill/oh no, gotta take the after-morning pill" comments. how else do the comments relate to what you said in 1?

so it seem you're saying that if male devs knew how female bodies work, they would not have their characters say that. which would be dumb thinking because taking the pill prevents pregnancy.

so if that was not your point with mentioning the characters saying that, then what was the point and what's your evidence for what you say in 1?
 

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Also agree. I don't think a lot of game devs annd artists even know how a vagina works much less how their biology works.
At the same token, its a porn game. The characters are characters. Sometimes you throw reality in the dumpster to make fun things happen...

That's not to say you are incorrect about how logical it is for characters like my MC Serena to deflower virgins without it being incredibly painful. (If reality was a thing...)
 

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At the same token, its a porn game. The characters are characters. Sometimes you throw reality in the dumpster to make fun things happen...

That's not to say you are incorrect about how logical it is for characters like my MC Serena to deflower virgins without it being incredibly painful. (If reality was a thing...)
Fantasy would be boring if we still had to conform with what is "realistic", after all.
 

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1) but you didnt provided any reason or evidence for why you think "Most male developers tend to believe a creampie means imminent deathmost" or "many devs don't quite seem to understand how female bodies work"...

2) ... except - it seems - those "dont worry, i'm on the pill/oh no, gotta take the after-morning pill" comments. how else do the comments relate to what you said in 1?
Considering that in roughly 99% of games the female dialogue is so out of this world and could be written by a 12 year old pubescent teenager without any experience with females, I'd say that's a reasonable assumption. The amount of games I've played where after a creampie the dialogue straight goes to "OH NO, I'm gonna be pregnant" only adds to that. You know, it's usually more difficult to get a woman pregnant than...not.

I'll tell you right now that alot of the people creating and playing these games have hardly any first hand experiences, and it shows.

so it seem you're saying that if male devs knew how female bodies work, they would not have their characters say that. which would be dumb thinking because taking the pill prevents pregnancy.
I've never said that either. I'm saying it's- most of the time, the only go-to dialogue (or rather monologue) you'll see in games from female characters. There seems to be zero awareness of their own cycle. Ovulating? Periods? It's like none of that even exists.

Anyway... You're begging for an argument here asking for evidence and whatnot, which obviously I can't provide as some things in life come with experience and reading between lines. But for someone who is out to get into a fight, none of what I'm saying here will suffice and we'll end up running in circles because in the end all you're doing is going for a dick measuring contest.
 
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I've never said that either. I'm saying it's- most of the time, the only go-to dialogue (or rather monologue) you'll see in games from female characters. There seems to be zero awareness of their own cycle. Ovulating? Periods? It's like none of that even exists.
tbf, there are games, books (my aunt's torturous smut novels), movies, etc, that are made by women that don't acknowledge such things either. Because that stuff is boring.
 
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