VN Ren'Py Tides of Succession [Ch.2 v0.2] [TakMycket]

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TakMycket

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What's with the undecipherable font for the names, why not just use normal, readable font? Even at three times the size they're just an eyesore.
 

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What's with the undecipherable font for the names, why not just use normal, readable font? Even at three times the size they're just an eyesore.
It's one of the games where I've had to swap out the fonts. I don't mind the dialogue font, but the font for names is horrible (for me).
 

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So far the Glade character is weirdly integrated/forced.
Being confirmed as part of your crew without input of the Cap or MC is ultra weird, esp. if you decide to stick with Cap where Glade's "disappearance" would be most fitting.
When introducing Glade to the blue lady it is weird that we can't be even slightly negative towards Glade, only defend Glade or reprimand the blue girl.
The jealousy of Glade just on single positive interaction with her(introduce to crew) and MC is just happily rolling with her bossy/jealous attitude is weird.
I guess catching the nuance if player's choices want the MC be endearing or disgusted by the way Glade acts towards/near him is too difficult with the few choices we had prior to that.

IDK, but immediately befriending someone who was an active participant of a gang that butchered your whole crew needs a bit more development from a prisoner towards neutrality or even friendship for it to feel "organic".
 

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IDK, but immediately befriending someone who was an active participant of a gang that butchered your whole crew needs a bit more development from a prisoner towards neutrality or even friendship for it to feel "organic".
Because prior she was under the control (and assume unable to have a will of one's own) of Lockhart. Once free from his control she is free to make her own decisions again and be her own person and is no longer a threat.

I like ya wolf....but at times it does seem like you puposefully look for stuff that doesn't really exist to moan about it :sneaky:
 
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BEcausde prioir she was under the control (and assume unable to have a will of one's own) of Lockhart. Once free from his control she is free to make her own decisions again and be her own person and is no longer a threat.
Would have preferred that it was somehow communicated, but one frame she's a prisoner and the next she is already a friend? If she was non-essential to main plot so be it, but she seems to be a pillar of the story.
Do we know if she regretted what she did? Does she hold resentment towards lockhart? Is she a 1k year old broad?
 
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Would have preferred that it was somehow communicated, but one frame she's a prisoner and the next she is already a friend? If she was non-essential to main plot so be it, but she seems to be a pillar of the story.
Do we know if she regretted what she did? Does she hold resentment towards lockhart? Is she a 1k year old broad?
Maybe it is a lost in translation issue then, it all seemed perfectly logical and communicative to me.

Once she is free from Lockhart's control, she is nothing, has no one, has nowhere to go or be. This is told. Note there also two paths for her, allegience or not. If chose to accept her offer, then of course you're going to be a lot closer to her. Also, as is also very well comminucated, MC, a disabled Will and Kasula (who has never even seen a ship before she originally left her homeland), are NOT going to sail a 140ft+ multi-sailed ship on their own. Physically impossible. They need her help.

So it's a multi-day voyage (time is not explicitly given but we know it's normally a 3 day sail and they were 2 days late). That's actually a lot of time to bond with someone....plus the time afterwards spent in Osalis. Regardless of your path, she still likes you...with regards to being part of the crew, if not on path, Windy gives her a job, not us (which is logical, she has no home, nowhere to live, no money...and all she knows is how to be a pirate...makes sense she'd apply).


Yes, she is part of the overarching story...like many characters whether we like it or not. Her exact involvement though does depend on whether you aligned with her or not and/or if romancing her or not. If neither, she is in it far less. As for her age, I won't spoil here....but you should find out for yourself ;)
 
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Regardless of your path, she still likes you...with regards to being part of the crew, if not on path, Windy gives her a job, not us (which is logical, she has no home, nowhere to live, no money...and all she knows is how to be a pirate...makes sense she'd apply).
In the debriefing with the king the MC refers to her as part of the crew, not as a prisoner or anything else.
Idk, maybe if it was explained that the slavery spell that lockhart is using is pretty usual occurrence and that Glade's situation is an everyday situation in the world of spice.
NOT going to sail a 140ft+ multi-sailed ship on their own. Physically impossible. They need her help.
Sure for the voyage back, but she is immediately a potentially great threat to the Captain until we get to decide our allegiance.


The issue i have with her is that progress with her comes out of nowhere from both MC's side and Glade's, while other LI's have a clear progression that seems coherent.
 

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Would have preferred that it was somehow communicated, but one frame she's a prisoner and the next she is already a friend? If she was non-essential to main plot so be it, but she seems to be a pillar of the story.
Do we know if she regretted what she did? Does she hold resentment towards lockhart? Is she a 1k year old broad?
Because prior she was under the control (and assume unable to have a will of one's own) of Lockhart. Once free from his control she is free to make her own decisions again and be her own person and is no longer a threat.
Exactly what Maviarab says above.

The reader isn't given all information at that moment in time. Spice Weavers are very, very, rare and most of what is known about them is rumor and conjecture. So it makes sense the MC doesn't know much about them and what they can do as he watches it live. Because the MC doesn't know everything about what's going on, it makes sense the reader also doesn't know. The MC is at sea, attacked by pirates, and needs to make a quick field decision with very limited actual information.

When MC defeats Glade, her skin/eyes very noticeable change. She appears somewhat disoriented, and immediately upon regaining her senses says she was under Lockhart's control and she's lost everything and everyone. She is also not injured from the sword piercing her... a strange anomaly. But do you believe what she says? Is just just trying to save her life? Will she turn on you? This kind of storytelling is cool but really only works the first time as each additional retelling the mystery is already solved.

If I remember correctly, there was also a conversation later when they get back to the capital city with the King... if you sided with him to apprehend your 'father'. I'm not 100% confidant, but the King talks about how dangerous spice weavers are, and I think one of the given examples was controlling minds.

And then again later in the game, if you have dinner with Glade she will tell you more about it and she might also tell you how old she actually is.
 
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The reader isn't given all information at that moment in time. Spice Weavers are very, very, rare and most of what is known about them is rumor and conjecture. So it makes sense the MC doesn't know much about them and what they can do as he watches it live. Because the MC doesn't know everything about what's going on, it makes sense the reader also doesn't know. The MC is at sea, attacked by pirates, and needs to make a quick field decision with very limited actual information.
Glade as a character is fine, with all her circumstances, but her integration into the story does not feel coherent on every path.
With Princess or the Elf we are shown how the relationship is starting from 0 and progresses towards LI or a nobody, with glade we see no progression from the prisoner on boat to a friend, it just happens behind camera.
The current plot with her makes most sense if you decide to go with her offer from the start, but on the rejection path the narrative seems weak.

If the slave spell is rare AF and not really public knowledge, then it is weird that she is not treated with extreme prejudice until that is confirmed by trusted sources.
 

Maviarab

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Glade as a character is fine, with all her circumstances, but her integration into the story does not feel coherent on every path.
With Princess or the Elf we are shown how the relationship is starting from 0 and progresses towards LI or a nobody, with glade we see no progression from the prisoner on boat to a friend, it just happens behind camera.
The current plot with her makes most sense if you decide to go with her offer from the start, but on the rejection path the narrative seems weak.

If the slave spell is rare AF and not really public knowledge, then it is weird that she is not treated with extreme prejudice until that is confirmed by trusted sources.
Oh ffs wolf...give it up. She spice pledges she is telling the truth. Will wants a pledge she will not harm them...it's given off-screen. Again, you're looking for stuff to whine about that just doesn't exist.

She has pledged...she has no friends, no home, no money, nothing. Sure, she wants to save her ass and survive....survive...as many others characters tell you the exact same thing. She is no danger, no threat and of course, is not going to be purposefully antagonistic because it's really not in her interests to be so. 3+ more days at sea (we have no idea how long it had been before the attack from Lockhart), working very closely with the MC to get the ship back to Osalis and then there are time skips where we do not see most interactions of people during the day/evenings.

Why would the MC not be friendly towards her at this point and vice-versa and after all that, lon longer being tied to Lockhart, why would she be considered some Soviet Asset not to be trusted and under suspicion?
 
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