Ren'Py Sins of Night [Release 4] [MakinWaves]

[MakinWaves]

That makes more sense, appreciate the clarification. I more meant like a PoV shift from the MC to Evelyn rather than stalking her in that path, so we as a player could see what was going on (or maybe through video/text she sends if it develops enough further down the road), but regardless it's good that there are options now for what kind of content you'll see, will probably stick to the Vice path in that case.

As an aside I really do appreciate there being a combat system to add to the sandbox. It adds something more unique to the game so it doesn't just become clicking and reading simulator, and it generally makes it stand out a bit more (especially as a VTMB fan seeing different vampire abilities implemented is a big plus).

I won't be doing any pov shifting in this game, I think that would undermine the choices and mc progression somewhat (I won't get too into that lol). In that instance, access will be part of the progression. It'll make more sense once the content expands later

Appreciate the thoughts about the combat system. Time investment aside, usual wisdom would suggest it's something to avoid doing in these kind of games. Glad it's got some value to people!

Hey, I’m new to playing this game just asking if you enable the sharing content can you still avoid the NTR scenes

Sharing options are marked with the broken heart, so yeah you can leave it turned on and just not press those options and you'll be good.

Alright, I tried the combat a bit. I would say it's fine for what it does. I would even say I enjoyed it. I could see myself playing around with it just for the different enemy types. But if I'm understanding the dev response here, it won't give exp? I actually wouldn't mind if it did give a small bit for those that want to do it. Assuming it'll be an ever present thing in the open world going forward.

After playing from the start again. I can say with confidence now that I'm a Kate simp. I wasn't sure before this update. Sort of on the fence even, but that fight was hot. When I finally get to her level, she's mine. After I get some payback first, of course. She needs a good spanking after she kicked MC's ass. Which, don't get me wrong, was supposed to happen in that fight. MC shouldn't be able to beat her that quick.

So for XP from combat, in practice you kinda will be getting some, but rather as a quest reward from whatever content you happen to be doing. I have plans for a combat focused job for example, so you'd get xp from completing a specific assignment that would involve combat. It's just a structural distinction in practice, because I don't want to introduce a way to grind tonnes of boring encounters to max character level. I also have to account for people who don't build their character for combat, so they need to be able to earn XP from their own stuff too.

Kate is best. She'll be getting a release focused on her after Hazel.

 

[Sayajin2205]

So for XP from combat, in practice you kinda will be getting some, but rather as a quest reward from whatever content you happen to be doing. I have plans for a combat focused job for example, so you'd get xp from completing a specific assignment that would involve combat. It's just a structural distinction in practice, because I don't want to introduce a way to grind tonnes of boring encounters to max character level. I also have to account for people who don't build their character for combat, so they need to be able to earn XP from their own stuff too.

Kate is best. She'll be getting a release focused on her after Hazel.

Nice combat focused quests ,also if a mc is combat focused would he still be able to do those other optional quests which aren't combat focused?
Also what's the target this year for you first hazel followed by kate and then back to Evelyn? Also would rejecting the Matton have bad consequences? I am kind of not interested in her dom/sub route.Bur working for her brings money lol.

 

[PickerLewd]

Bur working for her brings money lol.

Hugh, the vampire daddy, should adopt you and share his wealth like the Cullens do in Twilight.

He seems to be pretty loaded with the number of centuries he has .

 

[Sayajin2205]

Hugh, the vampire daddy, should adopt you and share his wealth like the Cullens do in Twilight.

He seems to be pretty loaded with the number of centuries he has .

Fr fr bro needs to Atleast employ me or something if not adopt lol.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Too early to say but I want to get it done faster than this one for sure.


Well it would be weird if I didn't introduce it early in the game.


Prestige level 2 for the story event and help Evelyn at work to unlock the sharing if that's your thing.


Getting angry in a moment and watching someone get tortured are very different, I would say. Glad you like the combat and stat stuff. I won't be introducing an xp grind or anything like that; you'll largely level up naturally as the story progresses. Ideally a bit more so if you go out of your way to do optional stuff. The plot and characters will also acknowledge the MC progressing as you go from the lil baby to overtaking your peers. Appreciate the support


You would have already met Leah very briefly in the original bar intro. Both her and Mae are Evelyn's coworkers, I would hope that's obvious and it would make sense that you knew them already!


Depends on the character, event etc... Some stuff might just stay in the bedroom and others might have an impact.

Thanks for the answer!

You know, i would remain neutral in my opinion regarding the real time invested in the update and the content we received.
But:
1. The combat system is not for everyone and i hope there will be a function to skip the fight and win!
I like Kate as a character and i enjoyed her presence in the scene more than the combat system itself!
2. The main minus, for me, is that like you made sharing events in the bar!
Question: if i go the other way(love), is this event not available in my playground?
And the minus is that you split the bar events into 8 parts and since we meet two other girl-workers, Evelyn gets 4 events,
in one she plays pools and here she shows her breasts to her opponents, but we only see her from the back! Then the event continues and the opponents paw at her breasts while they cover it with their hands and again we can’t see anything!
In the second event she takes the purse and the player has to choose whether to stop her or not, if not then she leaves the bar arm in arm with the client with a signature: "maybe someday she will tell me what happened between them" !

WTF dude?

If we didn't deserve with for such a long wait to see a "lewd-scene" of Evelyn and the one she left, or at least show her bare tits - MC's sister went much further in her events at the club!

This moment was simply disappointing and diminished the overall impression of this update!
Thanks for Kate and her sweaty tits, but i'll join those who are more disappointed than satisfied!

 

[swiver]

Thanks for the answer!

You know, i would remain neutral in my opinion regarding the real time invested in the update and the content we received.
But:
1. The combat system is not for everyone and i hope there will be a function to skip the fight and win!
I like Kate as a character and i enjoyed her presence in the scene more than the combat system itself!
2. The main minus, for me, is that like you made sharing events in the bar!
Question: if i go the other way(love), is this event not available in my playground?
And the minus is that you split the bar events into 8 parts and since we meet two other girl-workers, Evelyn gets 4 events,
in one she plays pools and here she shows her breasts to her opponents, but we only see her from the back! Then the event continues and the opponents paw at her breasts while they cover it with their hands and again we can’t see anything!
In the second event she takes the purse and the player has to choose whether to stop her or not, if not then she leaves the bar arm in arm with the client with a signature: "maybe someday she will tell me what happened between them" !

WTF dude?

If we didn't deserve with for such a long wait to see a "lewd-scene" of Evelyn and the one she left, or at least show her bare tits - MC's sister went much further in her events at the club!

This moment was simply disappointing and diminished the overall impression of this update!
Thanks for Kate and her sweaty tits, but i'll join those who are more disappointed than satisfied!

SHit. I haven't played yet but it sounds like the best/worst kind of disappointment. Is that what kids are calling a thirst trap these days?

I'm more worried that it seems there's a lot of minor variations; different choices at different stages of same-y events that do not always lead to divergent major paths.
I understand where it comes from when you're a dev with ideas for varying possibilities, and it can be what a player lives for (like really interesting differences in dialogue can happen in the same scenes even) but for a player who's balancing the engagement with a story/game with the porno-thing under life's time constrains can be difficult to manage in a straight-up choice-VN, let alone when you add mini-games and use a sandbox format.
With some games I enjoy I found myself unable to see where paths diverged and to understand the variation and ended up using the gallery more often than actually playing because I didn't have the time to soberly understand the different choices.
I did also notice that some guys seem to be reading the code of a VN rather than describing a playthrough..

Anyway, eitherway whatever, still good and I look forward to being chafed and/or blue-balled of the night!

 

[Kajmakk]

This game is very underrated and has a HUGE potential!

 

[sergerserj]

With every new update this game become more and more NOT AVN and more dumb grind rpg which we all needed so much on this site, right? Right?
Imagine developer focus on actual plot, story and visual content, instead of wasting time on combat system. wtf man...
Half of a year and one sex scene. So much wasted potential.
Guess I wait to next update and if there will be another "combat system" update, then I'm "Doing my part" and review 1/5...

 

[kfy]

With every new update this game become more and more NOT AVN and more dumb grind rpg which we all needed so much on this site, right? Right?
Imagine developer focus on actual plot, story and visual content, instead of wasting time on combat system. wtf man...
Half of a year and one sex scene. So much wasted potential.
Guess I wait to next update and if there will be another "combat system" update, then I'm "Doing my part" and review 1/5...

Maybe you should've read the gameplay description on the front page before playing the game. "Adult Roleplaying Sandbox" with VN Event elements. Coming here to complain about how the game is what it's described as probably isn't going to do much for you. It's also just 1 update, dev mentioned that upcoming updates are character focused, but given the rest of your comment I'm assuming you didn't bother to read much here.

 

[Phase_01]

I won't be doing any pov shifting in this game, I think that would undermine the choices and mc progression somewhat (I won't get too into that lol). In that instance, access will be part of the progression. It'll make more sense once the content expands later

Appreciate the thoughts about the combat system. Time investment aside, usual wisdom would suggest it's something to avoid doing in these kind of games. Glad it's got some value to people!


Sharing options are marked with the broken heart, so yeah you can leave it turned on and just not press those options and you'll be good.


So for XP from combat, in practice you kinda will be getting some, but rather as a quest reward from whatever content you happen to be doing. I have plans for a combat focused job for example, so you'd get xp from completing a specific assignment that would involve combat. It's just a structural distinction in practice, because I don't want to introduce a way to grind tonnes of boring encounters to max character level. I also have to account for people who don't build their character for combat, so they need to be able to earn XP from their own stuff too.

Kate is best. She'll be getting a release focused on her after Hazel.

Are sharing scenes like one-time scenes, or is it a whole separate route with its own point system?

Asking cuz I was wondering if its something where you could keep it turned on, just view those scenes each time they come up and then revert them and play a "vanilla" playthrough. Unless it has its own route where the more you choose the sharing options, the more scenes it opens up in the future/alters the story, in which case you'd basically need to have multiple playthroughs for sharing ending and vanilla ending.

 

[ItsNotUs]

SHit. I haven't played yet but it sounds like the best/worst kind of disappointment. Is that what kids are calling a thirst trap these days?

I'm more worried that it seems there's a lot of minor variations; different choices at different stages of same-y events that do not always lead to divergent major paths.
I understand where it comes from when you're a dev with ideas for varying possibilities, and it can be what a player lives for (like really interesting differences in dialogue can happen in the same scenes even) but for a player who's balancing the engagement with a story/game with the porno-thing under life's time constrains can be difficult to manage in a straight-up choice-VN, let alone when you add mini-games and use a sandbox format.
With some games I enjoy I found myself unable to see where paths diverged and to understand the variation and ended up using the gallery more often than actually playing because I didn't have the time to soberly understand the different choices.
I did also notice that some guys seem to be reading the code of a VN rather than describing a playthrough..

Anyway, eitherway whatever, still good and I look forward to being chafed and/or blue-balled of the night!

As i wrote above, the sister's event at the club made it much deeper! Here you can either help her yourself(Love) or let her try her strength with other men(Share).
And the event with Evelyn turned out to be just tiny compared to the sister's event - if only the dev had devoted more time to the same scene of pool playing! For example 10 renders instead of 3! Where it would be visible how her opponents try to paw her, as she gradually gives in and several renders where they paw her bare breasts! Then ok, i personally wouldn’t have any questions, but i get the feeling that the dev worked on this, i don’t know who needed, combat system and for those who are not interested in this, so as not to upset them too much made this event with Evelyn!

 

[Scooter_Tramp]

Maybe you should've read the gameplay description on the front page before playing the game. "Adult Roleplaying Sandbox" with VN Event elements. Coming here to complain about how the game is what it's described as probably isn't going to do much for you. It's also just 1 update, dev mentioned that upcoming updates are character focused, but given the rest of your comment I'm assuming you didn't bother to read much here.

Maybe they should have posted a screenshot of the nightmare combat screen, having seen that I would have walked on by...

I will say that the VN portions of this are enjoyable but the excessive grind and mini game nonsense are a deal breaker! Will set the thread to ignore...

 

[beerbearbeer]

cheat code pls

 

[Fantasyerotica1234]

I wish more story and smut. With Evelyn I like how manipulative the MC is. His constant mentioning of debt and getting her into the practice of relying on him. That hungry desire gor power. He uses the girls as seductive toys to serve his interests with others.

It's interesting as there is a troubling and therefore exciting implication of ownership. They may fuck and slut but our vampire decides their life and they couldn't leave him. He'd make sure of it

 

[MakinWaves]

Nice combat focused quests ,also if a mc is combat focused would he still be able to do those other optional quests which aren't combat focused?
Also what's the target this year for you first hazel followed by kate and then back to Evelyn? Also would rejecting the Matton have bad consequences? I am kind of not interested in her dom/sub route.Bur working for her brings money lol.

Some stuff will be locked behind your build, otherwise there's not much point in having it at all. Though I don't think in practice you will miss much.

That's the general plan yeah, I'm working to get it all done this year. Rejecting the Matron might have some effects, but I don't want to force people into relationships they don't want to have.

Thanks for the answer!

You know, i would remain neutral in my opinion regarding the real time invested in the update and the content we received.
But:
1. The combat system is not for everyone and i hope there will be a function to skip the fight and win!
I like Kate as a character and i enjoyed her presence in the scene more than the combat system itself!
2. The main minus, for me, is that like you made sharing events in the bar!
Question: if i go the other way(love), is this event not available in my playground?
And the minus is that you split the bar events into 8 parts and since we meet two other girl-workers, Evelyn gets 4 events,
in one she plays pools and here she shows her breasts to her opponents, but we only see her from the back! Then the event continues and the opponents paw at her breasts while they cover it with their hands and again we can’t see anything!
In the second event she takes the purse and the player has to choose whether to stop her or not, if not then she leaves the bar arm in arm with the client with a signature: "maybe someday she will tell me what happened between them" !

WTF dude?

If we didn't deserve with for such a long wait to see a "lewd-scene" of Evelyn and the one she left, or at least show her bare tits - MC's sister went much further in her events at the club!

This moment was simply disappointing and diminished the overall impression of this update!
Thanks for Kate and her sweaty tits, but i'll join those who are more disappointed than satisfied!

The bar was just the best place to put her sharing. Not everything will be stuck there in the future though, these are just the early baby steps. Same reason it's so light on the sexual content and there's an element of obstruction. I have several vice/virtue levels of content planned and it won't be very interesting if there's no real progression over that time. It'll come, promise

With every new update this game become more and more NOT AVN and more dumb grind rpg which we all needed so much on this site, right? Right?
Imagine developer focus on actual plot, story and visual content, instead of wasting time on combat system. wtf man...
Half of a year and one sex scene. So much wasted potential.
Guess I wait to next update and if there will be another "combat system" update, then I'm "Doing my part" and review 1/5...

I'm shifting focus onto character content. It was never my intention to spend so much time on combat, but that's just game development (and my inexperience). There came points where I had to decide to scrap the whole idea or push on ahead, but I'm a stubborn bastard.

Are sharing scenes like one-time scenes, or is it a whole separate route with its own point system?

Asking cuz I was wondering if its something where you could keep it turned on, just view those scenes each time they come up and then revert them and play a "vanilla" playthrough. Unless it has its own route where the more you choose the sharing options, the more scenes it opens up in the future/alters the story, in which case you'd basically need to have multiple playthroughs for sharing ending and vanilla ending.

It's just a subset of the content available at each vice/virtue level. You won't be locked to it or anything, the options available to you just change as you progress and change the character.

 

[Pogo123]

i see ntr tag i get interested. is there already some ntr? and if yes whats the focus? are there different types of males? i hope not just "stereotypical muscualar tall guy/boy". some girls look really sexy. quality and idea looks very good/interesting.

 

[name]

hope we get a lot more stuff of Evelyn in a bikini

 

[Fxx322]

OCan someone tell me the cheat code please?

 

[Fantasyerotica1234]

Some stuff will be locked behind your build, otherwise there's not much point in having it at all. Though I don't think in practice you will miss much.

I'm interested in sex content with vampire girls running High Potence and potentially seeing how super human strength could apply to groping and handling human girls

 

[MakinWaves]

i see ntr tag i get interested. is there already some ntr? and if yes whats the focus? are there different types of males? i hope not just "stereotypical muscualar tall guy/boy". some girls look really sexy. quality and idea looks very good/interesting.

There's some mild/foreplay sharing content yes. Got a system in which different guys appear (from a variety of archetypes) and the girls can act differently based on a score.

I'm interested in sex content with vampire girls running High Potence and potentially seeing how super human strength could apply to groping and handling human girls

I'm not sure the super strength will get applied to human girls, unless you are trying to crush them. I did have the idea of potency checks being done in some of the dominate content, but we'll see!