Ma Junior

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Saki was fucking satoshi while the son was home and then allowed the son get beatten and back into sex on top of him. only reason they stoped having sex was because the son was hyper ventilating and again bullying is not the same as murder.
Needless to say she took advantage of a person in a vulnerable position as far as law is concerned so not only would she lose the job/volunteer position but also get some sort of penalty or conviction;
Satoshi acted in self defence with Unproportional force. the first one to get hit was satoshi, THAN he unleased.
and i am gona replay first part becuase i though azusa just quietly left next day after being confronted by satoshi and all contact was lost since.
At the end of autumn episode from Satoshi's POV, she comes back in full gyaru mode and humilates Satoshi, saying she's pregnant with Kujo's baby. There is 0 chance she ever comes back to her previous life.

And about Saki, the whole spring episode is a parallel to Autumn episode. It's about how Satoshi tries to become the bull, but fails. He is successfull at first, Saki is getting corrupted, tattoed and fucked in front of her son's body, but when she notices that Kotaro is hyper ventilating, that's when she comes back to her senses and Satoshi's plan fails. And Satoshi is an adult at this time, so Saki is not doing something illegal. She had very cards in hands to evict him.
At least, that's my interpretation.
 

nickku1

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At the end of autumn episode from Satoshi's POV, she comes back in full gyaru mode and humilates Satoshi, saying she's pregnant with Kujo's baby. There is 0 chance she ever comes back to her previous life.

And about Saki, the whole spring episode is a parallel to Spring episode. It's about how Satoshi tries to become the bull, but fails. He is successfull at first, Saki is getting corrupted, tattoed and fucked in front of her son's body, but when she notices that Kotaro is hyper ventilating, that's when she comes back to her senses and Satoshi's plan fails. At least, that's my interpretation.
2 important points here are that EVERYTHING is still her's what she did was akin to lending becuase she is on tour, and satoshi had no plan, saki was the one throwing herself into satoshi, and he didnt guilt trip her like the crook did, not did she know about the bulling unliky his hag of a mother.
 

Ma Junior

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2 important points here are that EVERYTHING is still her's what she did was akin to lending becuase she is on tour XD and its easy to imagine by spring she would have 2/3 kids cuz she is a slut.
Those are fair points, but ultimately, it's impossible to determine who's truly in the right. That said, if Azusa really did return after two years of abandoning her own son, only to kick him out into the street to make room for the children she had with his bully—then frankly, she's the biggest bitch of all his games, hands down
 

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Those are fair points, but ultimately, it's impossible to determine who's truly in the right. That said, if Azusa really did return after two years of abandoning her own son, only to kick him out into the street to make room for the children she had with his bully—then frankly, she's the biggest bitch of all his games, hands down
btw how did kasu aka the crook even get his own house/room? and adults in this game giving children houses left right and center? i fully skipped the mom's pov so i know very little of kasu other then being crook with experience.
PS i though she cameback after 1 weeks but nah first i dont know how many weeks she felt hurt and didnt want to see him (boo hoo) and then she stoped caring about him, but the house is still her's.
 

Ma Junior

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btw how did kasu aka the crook even get his own house/room? and adults in this game giving children houses left right and center? i fully skipped the mom's pov so i know very little of kasu other then being crook with experience.
You mean Kujo? During the first night, before going to bed, he said that he was 22, which is weird because he goes to the same school as Satoshi. So either he was so bad at school that he repeated years a ridiculous number of times, or either it's a narrative loophole to make it legal.
Assuming that he's actually a minor, he may have part-time jobs, legal or not, squat the appartment or receive some sort of state assistance.
 

nickku1

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You mean Kujo? During the first night, before going to bed, he said that he was 22, which is weird because he goes to the same school as Satoshi. So either he was so bad at school that he repeated years a ridiculous number of times, or either it's a narrative loophole to make it legal.
Assuming that he's actually a minor, he may have part-time jobs, legal or not, squat the appartment or receive some sort of state assistance.
knew it he is a crook. btw satoshi is a year younger. Any way lore is gutted so all this theory cafting was fun but unlikly to ever be clarified or referenced again
 

nickku1

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The fact that after all these years abandoning her son, she kicks him out into the street is wild, Kujo really turned her into a bitch beyond saving.
But why did she came back though? Did she actually regret what she's done and decided to retake her old store? But then, why did she kicked him out? Is it because he became a delinquant?
I hope we'll see her again in a futur game... He already made cameos with every women of the same universe and timeline, so maybe she'll appear again in another game?
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lets not forget Kazu is crook that is super good a manipulating, she is broken as you can see, and she doesnt care for satoshi at all at this point. BTW its not mention where the money is coming from and she doesnt know either but that crook is probaly selling illegal abuse videos :/
 
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NTR-Lord

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I see what you mean, but I'm not entirely sure I agree. In a lot of NTR games, the woman instantly falls for the bull the moment she sees his cock, there’s no build-up at all.
At least in this case, with Azusa, while the corruption happens somewhat quickly, there is still a build up which feels gradual enough for me.
Initially, she's genuinely angry at him, scolds him, and then things happen, he ends up apologizing to her son. A series of interactions and events follow, the rain, the nostalgia of her youth love, his boasting, his lies, her naivety, each contributing to her shift in attitude and finally, their first sexual encounter is basically him raping her while she is internally lamenting to herself how she is a failed mother, but finally losing to the overwhelming power of her orgasm fueled by all her pent up sexual frustration. Something basically broke inside her this night, and her hidden slut was released.
I find the eroticism of this scene really good.
So, while it's not perfect, it's not entirely true to say there is no build up and no gradual corruption. At least, that's my opinion.
Just cause something happens a lot, in this case the woman falling for the bull instantly, it doesn't mean it's good. But that isn't the issue with this game, at least not in it's entirety. It is fine if you want to make the woman fall to the bull fast, but everything after going at lighting speed too is what harms the writing and game. The mother-son bond being broken so quickly, the shifting of priority between Kujo and Satoshi. Azusa wanting Kujo's baby instantly after the first fuck. All this happens in a couple days, the person that beats up her son regularly gets her to want his baby all cause of a sob story and a few nice words.


Again it is fine if you want to start this way, but your game need to be longer for it. And you need to have your characters interact more, show more scenes, it can even be non-sexual CGs, or scenes of Azusa putting Kujo more and more in the forefront and Saotshi in the back of her heart.

Her reaction to Satoshi calling her a slut was not proportional either. Especially based on what we had seen. She simultaneously "fell" to Kujo on her first day, but also still didn't because her interactions with Satoshi and Satoshi's pov was anemic.

I disagree with you saying that there was build up. We essentially got the following:

Azusa falls for Kujo and ways his baby on the first day - > Continues to not care for Satoshi - > leaves after being called a slut -> Hates Satoshi and an abrupt ending with her.

but given the events of her quick fall on the first day what are we suppose to feel. During the first scene of them fucking she even says something like " I know he is your bully but he is impregnating me right now and I don't care"

It pretty much all comes down to length. The length is just not there for the stories that NTRMAN wishes to tell.

Everything here has already been said I think at one point. The best we can do is move on and hope and pray for the future. I hope NTRMAN finds his footing again in the future.
 
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Ma Junior

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Just cause something happens a lot, in this case the woman falling for the bull instantly, it doesn't mean it's good. But that isn't the issue with this game, at least not in it's entirety. It is fine if you want to make the woman fall to the bull fast, but everything after going at lighting speed too is what harms the writing and game. The mother-son bond being broken so quickly, the shifting of priority between Kujo and Satoshi. Azusa wanting Kujo's baby instantly after the first fuck. All this happens in a couple days, the person that beats up her son regularly gets her to want his baby all cause of a sob story and a few nice words.


Again it is fine if you want to start this way, but your game need to be longer for it. And you need to have your characters interact more, show more scenes, it can even be non-sexual CGs, or scenes of Azusa putting Kujo more and more in the forefront and Saotshi in the back of her heart.

Her reaction to Satoshi calling her a slut was not proportional either. Especially based on what we had seen. She simultaneously "fell" to Kujo on her first day, but also still didn't because her interactions with Satoshi and Satoshi's pov was anemic.

I disagree with you saying that there was build up. We essentially got the following:

Azusa falls for Kujo and ways his baby on the first day - > Continues to not care for Satoshi - > leaves after being called a slut -> Hates Satoshi and an abrupt ending with her.

but given the events of her quick fall on the first day what are we suppose to feel. During the first scene of them fucking she even says something like " I know he is your bully but he is impregnating me right now and I don't care"

It pretty much all comes down to length. The length is just not there for the stories that NTRMAN wishes to tell.

Everything here has already been said I think at one point. The best we can do is move on and hope and pray for the future. I hope NTRMAN finds his footing again in the future.
Azusa’s character is written to embody a rather macho, primal view of female nature — the idea that beneath the surface, a woman hides a 'slut' instinctively drawn to the strong, dominant male, as if driven by a biological urge to seek superior genes.
She wasn’t suddenly turned into a slut — that side of her was always there, just dormant, waiting to be awakened. The story actually drops several hints about this: she’s surprised by her own physical and emotional reactions to Kujo, and after their first night together, she even says she feels like she’s become a new person.

There’s also that non-sexual CG scene where she’s talking to Kujo while Satoshi is bathing, and she seems confused by the feelings she’s having just being around him. These moments show that her shift isn’t just caused by external manipulation — it’s framed as something already inside her, being pulled to the surface.

Yes, she told Kujo to impregnate her during their first time, but that was in the heat of the moment, right before orgasm. The next morning, she’s more lucid and clearly lectures him about how serious it would be if he actually got her pregnant. At that point, she’s still able to keep her inner "slut" in check but we saw a glimpse of it in that moment of climax, when her instincts briefly took over.

And it’s not like she left Satoshi just because he called her a slut. She was already emotionally broken at that point and went to Kujo for comfort. But instead, he drugged her and fucked her until she gave up on going back to her former life. It wasn’t a choice — it was a breaking point.
 
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Chronic Logic

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pretty sure Saki went to prison and lost her job while Satoshi's on the run from the cops. Hate these open endings.
Also these theories about Azusa are wild. She logically should have been thrown in prison for child abandonment in the first episode.
I guess the world works differently in the NTRverse.
 
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Azusa’s character is written to embody a rather macho, primal view of female nature — the idea that beneath the surface, a woman hides a 'slut' instinctively drawn to the strong, dominant male, as if driven by a biological urge to seek superior genes.
This is more or less every single cookie cutter NTR releases ever. It means nothing. Azusa isn't special for this. If anything she is uninspired, overdone and generic.

She wasn’t suddenly turned into a slut — that side of her was always there, just dormant, waiting to be awakened. The story actually drops several hints about this: she’s surprised by her own physical and emotional reactions to Kujo, and after their first night together, she even says she feels like she’s become a new person.
Yeah we just disagree. Retroactively giving justifications. As if to say it was always inevitable because she had a hidden slut in her is just lazy writing.

"Oh yeah I fucked your boss on the first day of meeting him honey, I also had him send our son and daughter to the icu for his dick a few days after, but it is fine because there was always a hidden slut in me"

This is what this justification reads like to me. If you don't give it the proper time and expansion it becomes a lazy caricature. Which is Azusa. It all comes back to lack of length and writing skill.


Especially seeing as how it is not explored in any meaningful way. Just a convenience. As far as I'm concerned the fact of the matter is she did just turn into a slut. A bully that beats up her son and bothers him regularly. Literally won over her love for her son as a mom who raised him, because of some kind words, a sob story and some dick.

There’s also that non-sexual CG scene where she’s talking to Kujo while Satoshi is bathing, and she seems confused by the feelings she’s having just being around him. These moments show that her shift isn’t just caused by external manipulation — it’s framed as something already inside her, being pulled to the surface.
Too little too late. As I said above. Not explored enough

Yes, she told Kujo to impregnate her during their first time, but that was in the heat of the moment, right before orgasm. The next morning, she’s more lucid and clearly lectures him about how serious it would be if he actually got her pregnant. At that point, she’s still able to keep her inner "slut" in check but we saw a glimpse of it in that moment of climax, when her instincts briefly took over. .
this means nothing when 2min later she is back to being a cock hungry slut.


And it’s not like she left Satoshi just because he called her a slut. She was already emotionally broken at that point and went to Kujo for comfort. But instead, he drugged her and fucked her until she gave up on going back to her former life. It wasn’t a choice — it was a breaking point.
She was selfish and pretty much left cause she couldn't handle being called a slut by Satoshi. Which again is fine if we had more internal monologue with her or saw more corruptions and more scenes. Again it comes out to a length issue.

Right from the start Azusa was being pulled along and externally manipulated by Kujo going at his pace and doing everything he wanted. Instantly giving in and only paying lip service or putting up a veneer of resistance.

We just disagree. Which is fine this is all subjective. I would consider it low standard and lazy writing. But if a majority of the people want this then we are going to get what I consider terrible games.

I will say in retrospect Autumn was his best part since it had the most effort and length.
 
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Ma Junior

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This is more or less every single cookie cutter NTR releases ever. It means nothing. Azusa isn't special for this. If anything she is uninspired, overdone and generic.



Yeah we just disagree. Retroactively giving justifications. As if to say it was always inevitable because she had a hidden slut in her is just lazy writing.

"Oh yeah I fucked your boss on the first day of meeting him honey, I also had him send our son and daughter to the icu for his dick a few days after, but it is fine because there was always a hidden slut in me"

This is what this justification reads like to me. If you don't give it the proper time and expansion it becomes a lazy caricature. Which is Azusa. It all comes back to lack of length and writing skill.


Especially seeing as how it is not explored in any meaningful way. Just a convenience. As far as I'm concerned the fact of the matter is she did just turn into a slut. A bully that beats up her son and bothers him regularly. Literally won over her love for her son as a mom who raised him, because of some kind words, a sob story and some dick.



Too little too late. As I said above. Not explored enough

this means nothing when 2min later she is back to being a cock hungry slut.




She was selfish and pretty much left cause she couldn't handle being called a slut by Satoshi. Which again is fine if we had more internal monologue with her or saw more corruptions and more scenes. Again it comes out to a length issue.

Right from the start Azusa was being pulled along and externally manipulated by Kujo going at his pace and doing everything he wanted. Instantly giving in and only paying lip service or putting up a veneer of resistance.

We just disagree. Which is fine this is all subjective. I would consider it low standard and lazy writing. But if a majority of the people want this then we are going to get what I consider terrible games.

I will say in retrospect Autumn was his best part since it had the most effort and length.
Nice argument. Unfortunately, my profile pic solos yours.
 

jaden_yuki

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pretty sure Saki went to prison and lost her job while Satoshi's on the run from the cops. Hate these open endings.
Also these theories about Azusa are wild. She logically should have been thrown in prison for child abandonment in the first episode.
I guess the world works differently in the NTRverse.
kujo could also be arrested because of the drugs, if satoshi wanted revenge, there'd be many things he could use lol
 

MaLawd

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anybody modder here?

so i tried to mod the game for fun, I'm newb, I modded AOTG before, but SOL doesn't have separated sharedassets files, instead, it uses bundle file. so I grab that in assetstudio but doesn't have scenes texture2d files, but only stand characters files. so are they pre-rendered animation?

 

Camon

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anybody modder here?

so i tried to mod the game for fun, I'm newb, I modded AOTG before, but SOL doesn't have separated sharedassets files, instead, it uses bundle file. so I grab that in assetstudio but doesn't have scenes texture2d files, but only stand characters files. so are they pre-rendered animation?

Which program do you using if you dont mind telling?
 

distro003

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I hated the summer remake. I was happy thinking that it would continue the unfinished story.

We went from a plot in which Emi (red-haired mother) saw her son being beaten and, as a way of trying to stop the brat, forced herself to have sex with the brat so that maybe he would stop bullying her son, to a remake in which she is a single mother who hasn't had sex in a long time and, upon seeing a dick for the first time in years, falls in love. Seriously, can this really be called NTR??

My disappointment is immeasurable, NTRMAN is tainted by vanilla writers who work with him
 
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nickku1

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I will say in retrospect Autumn was his best part since it had the most effort and length.
i still stand behind the bad parent part, i think the length was fine but the emotional change by the time satoshi called her a slut was too much, satoshi was an understanding guy and good natured guy, he would probably accept the relation they had going with some time.
Also she deswond him cuz he is weak so than she abandons him to make more "weak" babies with kazu?
Spring as a standalone was a better and more satisfying sotory but also kinda generic, while winter was stupidest the by far but had the best scenes, action and body propostion wise.
 
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