Scene That Go On and On

[SuccubiGames]

I really have to ask this question. Do people really enjoy scenes in games that go on and on?

I've never liked visual novels for this very reason. I've played games where scenes would go on for hours before giving you a single choice. This is especially annoying for me during sex scenes. You're having sex! Is it really necessary to have so much goddamn dialogue?!

I just had to rant about this after playing one certain game. Not going to mention the name but it was on RPGM and the scene just wouldn't end. I was literally falling asleep in my chair.

What are your thoughts on this?

 

[Luv2CreamInTeens]

as someone who pretty much only plays visual novels, I agree with you

Devs love to write out these verbose descriptions during sex scenes and im just thinking to myself how many ways can you try to describe this, I am sticking my cock in her fucking cunt, its not that unique that it needs four paragraphs describing it to me, the only time I tend to enjoy it is if there is dirty talk involved but most of the time its just some lame description of intercourse that I skim over

save the descriptions for the actual story bits and just show me the sex if you arent going to write dirty talk

 

[morphnet]

I really have to ask this question. Do people really enjoy scenes in games that go on and on?

I've never liked visual novels for this very reason. I've played games where scenes would go on for hours before giving you a single choice. This is especially annoying for me during sex scenes. You're having sex! Is it really necessary to have so much goddamn dialogue?!

I just had to rant about this after playing one certain game. Not going to mention the name but it was on RPGM and the scene just wouldn't end. I was literally falling asleep in my chair.

What are your thoughts on this?

You're having sex!

visual

Is it really necessary to have so much goddamn dialogue?!

novels

visual novels

 

[Geigi]

I prefer descriptive sex scenes than "He stick his dick in me and came".

 

[DumpTruckLover]

A little dirty talk won’t kill anyone, but some creators filling half of a sex scene with dialogue really gets on my nerves.

 

[Doorknob22]

If you're talking about sex scenes, I agree that developers should be mindful not to drag them too much. If you're talking story scenes, it's the same rules that apply to any story: it should be interesting but as long as the dialogs are interesting, they are not too long.

And also bear this in mind: some people really hate minigames in AVNs, others despise combat and/or wasting time walking around an RPGM map and some, like the OP, hate dialogs. Remove all these elements and what are you left with? A gallery?

 

[Sphere42]

If there are actual meaningful descriptions or dialogue that's fine honestly. Not everyone's cup of tea but perhaps some people like the description of how her toes curl during orgasm or whatever.

But then there's the static CG games which don't use their verbosity to fill in the gaps between images and instead choose to flood you with page upon page of utterly inane drivel some of which doesn't even qualify as words. Had a few Japanese RPGM games where the "aaaahn!", "ueeeghuuu!" spam went on for too long even with turboskip held down.

 

[SuccubiGames]

I think people are misunderstanding what I'm talking about here so I'll give an example of an RPGM game that I played recently.

So you go from place to place and talk to people to unlock scenes in this game. Sometimes you get to make choices. That's all fine and good. However, one scene can last 15 minutes. Another can last well over an hour. And given this is RPGM, you can't save in the middle of a scene so you're stuck there until the scene ends.

There was something that really infuriated me about this game instead of just annoy. There was one scene where it took a really long build up to get to the sex stuff. Then the sex was incredibly long. By the end of it, I was like, "Finally! It's over!"

Then a whole new scene starts right after it without a break. Followed by another long ass sex scene! I was like, "Really?! Was that necessary to have two different scenes back to back like that?!"

I feel like there's a sweet spot when it comes to this. Like you shouldn't go over a certain amount of time before the player gets bored to death. Especially if you can't save and come back to it later.

 

[morphnet]

I feel like there's a sweet spot when it comes to this. Like you shouldn't go over a certain amount of time before the player gets bored to death.

What do the player who prefer story first / long scenes do then if scene time do get limited?

 

[tanstaafl]

This is more down to author skill. The author of some games were great at adding dialogue to games. Some are not. I just played a game where the people having sex were literally just talking as if they were sitting at breakfast. It was off-putting to say the least.

 

[seifukulover]

If there are actual meaningful descriptions or dialogue that's fine honestly. Not everyone's cup of tea but perhaps some people like the description of how her toes curl during orgasm or whatever.

But then there's the static CG games which don't use their verbosity to fill in the gaps between images and instead choose to flood you with page upon page of utterly inane drivel some of which doesn't even qualify as words. Had a few Japanese RPGM games where the "aaaahn!", "ueeeghuuu!" spam went on for too long even with turboskip held down.

This one drives me crazy! How many times do I have to read and click past "Haaaah!... ahhhhnnn... mmmm..." to get the message across?? I get it, she feels good. I feel like almost every VN is guilty of this too.

 

[whowhawhy]

And given this is RPGM, you can't save in the middle of a scene so you're stuck there until the scene ends.

was it one of those without pagedown=skip text (that could be used to quickly skip from the last save to where you had to stop reading)?

 

[GordonShock]

It's really tough to be a well-rounded Dev, as many skills are required. Been hanging around here and played adult games for a few years now, and I can recall a handful who've done it right across the board.

Seems like they read the reviews, and take them seriously. We should use it to up the ante, and raise standards. We're beginning to drown in slob.

 

[SuccubiGames]

What do the player who prefer story first / long scenes do then if scene time do get limited?

The reason I posted was to see if people preferred long scenes. I'm willing to bet they're in the minority.

As for people who prefer a story, so do I. However, there are better ways to tell a story than long drawn out scenes, especially when in the middle of a sex scene.

 

[SuccubiGames]

was it one of those without pagedown=skip text (that could be used to quickly skip from the last save to where you had to stop reading)?

Didn't check to be honest. But even if it did, given the length of this scene, you would've been holding down the skip button for several minutes.

 

[morphnet]

The reason I posted was to see if people preferred long scenes.

Some people do like them
Some people don't mind them
Some don't care
Some people try avoid them
Some people dislike them
Some people hate them
etc. etc. etc.

The above it the answer to most "what do you think?" threads.

I'm willing to bet they're in the minority.

But you will never know because the chances of getting a accurate and proportional response from the over 8.2 million members is impossible.

Also even if they were in the minority that does not mean they should have to go without content.

A quick post in the games thread asking how long scenes are and if they are skippable could easily saves hours of waiting in game and so could learning what functions the game itself offers to pass / skip or choose content.

As for people who prefer a story, so do I. However, there are better ways to tell a story than long drawn out scenes, especially when in the middle of a sex scene.

Except those game ARE in the minority when compared to ALL the games out there, so people not wanting games that jump straight into sex, have sex every two minutes, who might want dialog heavy sex scenes etc. already have a hard time finding games like that and now you want to decrease that number / eliminate it.

As for their being better ways to tell a story, yes there are BUT that is yours and my opinion and many others do not share it and it is only fair that they also get the content they enjoy.

I played a VN yesterday that had a long animated intro that included "spoiler scenes" (about half that were ingame and it could NOT be skipped). Did I enjoy it? No! Am I going to make a thread about it and other games like it? No because I know that others did and will enjoy it, the game was just not for me, so I deleted it and moved on.

That being said, have you played chasing sunsets? That bar scene lasts forever but is really good. So in one case I didn't like the long scene and in another I did but that is my tastes and I am not going to try push them onto others.

Didn't check to be honest. But even if it did, given the length of this scene, you would've been holding down the skip button for several minutes.

It would depend on the speed that the forward was set to and how many triggers / events have to play out. If forward is set to max and no triggers / events and usually one or half a line of text per window, you can skip a 15 minute scene in about 20 seconds. Also some of them come with an auto feature (keys differ per game) just hit S or Shift S or which ever key was assigned and sit back and it will auto fast forward for you.

There is also the option that if you feel the scenes are taking too long to just close the game....

 

[SuccubiGames]

Some people do like them
Some people don't mind them
Some don't care
Some people try avoid them
Some people dislike them
Some people hate them
etc. etc. etc.

The above it the answer to most "what do you think?" threads.



But you will never know because the chances of getting a accurate and proportional response from the over 8.2 million members is impossible.

Also even if they were in the minority that does not mean they should have to go without content.

A quick post in the games thread asking how long scenes are and if they are skippable could easily saves hours of waiting in game and so could learning what functions the game itself offers to pass / skip or choose content.



Except those game ARE in the minority when compared to ALL the games out there, so people not wanting games that jump straight into sex, have sex every two minutes, who might want dialog heavy sex scenes etc. already have a hard time finding games like that and now you want to decrease that number / eliminate it.

As for their being better ways to tell a story, yes there are BUT that is yours and my opinion and many others do not share it and it is only fair that they also get the content they enjoy.

I played a VN yesterday that had a long animated intro that included "spoiler scenes" (about half that were ingame and it could NOT be skipped). Did I enjoy it? No! Am I going to make a thread about it and other games like it? No because I know that others did and will enjoy it, the game was just not for me, so I deleted it and moved on.

That being said, have you played chasing sunsets? That bar scene lasts forever but is really good. So in one case I didn't like the long scene and in another I did but that is my tastes and I am not going to try push them onto others.



It would depend on the speed that the forward was set to and how many triggers / events have to play out. If forward is set to max and no triggers / events and usually one or half a line of text per window, you can skip a 15 minute scene in about 20 seconds. Also some of them come with an auto feature (keys differ per game) just hit S or Shift S or which ever key was assigned and sit back and it will auto fast forward for you.

There is also the option that if you feel the scenes are taking too long to just close the game....

Is it really necessary to be so passive aggressive? Like your entire response was, if you don't like the game, close it, shut up, and move on. Well, if I want to rant about my annoyances with a game, I think I have every right to. Especially on a forum pertinent to these types of games.

By the way, I never said anything about games with long ass scenes shouldn't exist. Nor did I say anything about how people who like that kind of thing should go without content. I would've been fine with someone who responded with, "I like those kinds of games because..."

Don't know how you thought I was trying to "push them onto others." The whole point of this thread was, I think games with long scenes suck, let's discuss it. So basically chill and stop responding like you're looking for a fight.

 

[morphnet]

Is it really necessary to be so passive aggressive? Like your entire response was, if you don't like the game, close it, shut up, and move on. Well, if I want to rant about my annoyances with a game, I think I have every right to.

I just had to rant about this after playing one certain game.

The reason I posted was to see if people preferred long scenes.

I thought you had a rant AND asked a question at least that's what you said you did?
Also I gave you other options other than "if you don't like the game, close it, shut up, and move on."

A quick post in the games thread asking how long scenes are and if they are skippable could easily saves hours of waiting in game and so could learning what functions the game itself offers to pass / skip or choose content.

Also some of them come with an auto feature (keys differ per game) just hit S or Shift S or which ever key was assigned and sit back and it will auto fast forward for you.

By the way, I never said anything about games with long ass scenes shouldn't exist. Nor did I say anything about how people who like that kind of thing should go without content.

Like you shouldn't go over a certain amount of time before the player gets bored to death.

If they stopped going over a certain amount of time, the content in the news ones that would have gone over wouldn't exist.
If they don't exist then the people who enjoy that content would not have it and so would go without that content....

However, there are better ways to tell a story than long drawn out scenes, especially when in the middle of a sex scene.

Same here....

I would've been fine with someone who responded with, "I like those kinds of games because..."

There are people who like them that's what matters and you didn't ask why, just if they did

The reason I posted was to see if people preferred long scenes.

Don't know how you thought I was trying to "push them onto others." The whole point of this thread was, I think games with long scenes suck, let's discuss it.

...and people did discuss it and you replied with

I think people are misunderstanding what I'm talking about here so I'll give an example of an RPGM game that I played recently.

You were also dismissive when asked about people who liked / enjoyed long scenes by replying you bet they are in the minority as if that held some meaning in the discussion. No discussion you just shut the point down with "you bet they are in the minority"

You also failed to admit or counter that those types of games are in the minority especially games

where scenes would go on for hours before giving you a single choice.

which means people who enjoy that content already have very little content out there.

So basically chill and stop responding like you're looking for a fight.

You ignore the fact I offered helpful advice as in check game threads, auto skipping, checking what functions the games support
You ignore the part where I agree with you but point out again that you are NOT taking others into consideration?

and reply with

Like your entire response was, if you don't like the game, close it, shut up, and move on. Well, if I want to rant about my annoyances with a game, I think I have every right to.

Maybe I'm not the one that needs to "chill and stop responding like you're looking for a fight."

 

[desmosome]

What do you mean by scenes? You saying there's a game with an hour long sex scene? Are you fapping so furiously that time is slowing down or something?

 

[SuccubiGames]

What do you mean by scenes? You saying there's a game with an hour long sex scene? Are you fapping so furiously that time is slowing down or something?

Lol no I'm not "fapping" for an entire hour. What I mean by scenes is this. For example in RPGM, you go talk to someone and a animated/CGI scene starts. It can just be dialogue to further the story or it can be a sex scene. To answer you second question, yes, there's a game with an hour long sex scene. I'm not one to just skip everything. I like to say it because I don't want to miss dialogue that could be important to the story later on but it's probably because I'm OCD.