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Would be cool if MC somehow got to fuck Camille without the approval (or better yet with disapproval) on that asshole route. Not only did he screw over his ex and co-worker/fuckbuddy, but also his best friend.
I don't think it would ever happen. Camille loves her husband and is loyal to him, it would effectively be cheating. I think Camille has the same role as Cooper: mostly comic relief with occasional seriousness. And it likely wouldn't change either.
 

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Especially when that LI is his mom. I guess they would only be satisfied with the Passion of the Christ game, as it has both an MC that is the poorest thing in the world and a perfect virgin mother. Or not, the existence of Mary Magdalene is obviously the forbidden three-letter word.
Some MILF virgin would ofc spice up the game a lot!
 

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I don't think it would ever happen. Camille loves her husband and is loyal to him, it would effectively be cheating. I think Camille has the same role as Cooper: mostly comic relief with occasional seriousness. And it likely wouldn't change either.
True, but we know she can also be a party animal. I don't know if she would still be completely loyal to him when she's drunk.
 
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SamualHand

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True, but we know she can also be a party animal. I don't know if she would still be completely loyal to him when she's drunk.
Partial loyal results in partially cheating! "I only sucked his balls, but never his dick?"
As a BJ is not sex, maybe anal is not too?
 

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Partial loyal results in partially cheating! "I only sucked his balls, but never his dick?"
As a BJ is not sex, maybe anal is not too?
With completely loyal, I just mean that she won't go further than maybe kissing (which is quite normal to do while partying, especially drunk). Anything further than that does count as cheating imo.
 

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With completely loyal, I just mean that she won't go further than maybe kissing (which is quite normal to do while partying, especially drunk). Anything further than that does count as cheating imo.
So partially loyality results in full cheating?! Seems just confusing to me...
 

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So partially loyality results in full cheating?! Seems just confusing to me...
Apparently you don't understand me.

Complete loyalty = No kissing, no any form of sex (including oral or anal) with others
Partial loyalty = Only kissing, but nothing more than that with others
No loyalty = Going any further than kissing

This is of course unless the couple are in an open or polyamorous relationship. Sounds clear cut to me and I understood that is the consensus among stable relationships.
 

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You can actually make MC into an even bigger asshole by cheating & leading Veronica on, proving how MC hasn't changed and is only becoming worse.

Or an even worse thing: take Jasmine as a date to the event and pick the most hurtful option in response to Veronica

I really, really hope there's more chances to get MC to act like an ass, instead of a goody-two-shoes type of character that a lot of VNs have MC be.
You can be a giant jerk to Veronica, as you said cheat on her multiple times and say hurtful things to her and you can be a mad asshole to Allison which leads to hate lewd scene that pretty much destroys any chance of you ever working out even for the sake of Lily. I'm not sure when it comes to Maggie but I think there are some insensitive things you can say to her too.

Jasmine needs the same treatment. I don't remember any option to outright be a jackass to her compared to the rest of main LI.
 

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With completely loyal, I just mean that she won't go further than maybe kissing (which is quite normal to do while partying, especially drunk). Anything further than that does count as cheating imo.
Complete loyalty = No kissing, no any form of sex (including oral or anal) with others
Partial loyalty = Only kissing, but nothing more than that with others
No loyalty = Going any further than kissing
You seem confused, 1st you say complete loyal includes kissing, now you want to tell me it's not...

You seem very strict with you definition of sex! You should talk to Bill Clinton some more! BJ are not sex!
 
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You can be a giant jerk to Veronica, as you said cheat on her multiple times and say hurtful things to her and you can be a mad asshole to Allison which leads to hate lewd scene that pretty much destroys any chance of you ever working out even for the sake of Lily. I'm not sure when it comes to Maggie but I think there are some insensitive things you can say to her too.

Jasmine needs the same treatment. I don't remember any option to outright be a jackass to her compared to the rest of main LI.
It's not exactly a fully negative thing but, you can introduce her as someone who 'works' for you rather than 'with you' on the project when introducing her to a potential investor. You don't lose any RP but you don't gain any either. But it's a pretty scumbag thing to do, especially when earlier in the story it's what Jasmine wants: to be seen as an equal with the project and not just a guinea pig or soulless employee.
 

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You seem confused, 1st you say complete loyal includes kissing, now you want to tell me it's not...

You seem very strict with you definition of sex! You should talk to Bill Clinton some more! BJ are not sex!
Not really, just read my first post instead of just the one you reacted to:
" I don't know if she would still be completely loyal to him when she's drunk."

Aka, I don't know if she will do nothing (completely loyal) or just kiss (partly loyal) with the guy she meets (or in worst case scenario even more). And we all know about the joke of Bill :p
 

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You can be a giant jerk to Veronica, as you said cheat on her multiple times and say hurtful things to her and you can be a mad asshole to Allison which leads to hate lewd scene that pretty much destroys any chance of you ever working out even for the sake of Lily. I'm not sure when it comes to Maggie but I think there are some insensitive things you can say to her too.

Jasmine needs the same treatment. I don't remember any option to outright be a jackass to her compared to the rest of main LI.
Just have Jake flunk Jasmine at the end of the school year in a betrayal.
 

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It's not exactly a fully negative thing but, you can introduce her as someone who 'works' for you rather than 'with you' on the project when introducing her to a potential investor. You don't lose any RP but you don't gain any either. But it's a pretty scumbag thing to do, especially when earlier in the story it's what Jasmine wants: to be seen as an equal with the project and not just a guinea pig or soulless employee.
Yes, you can also reject her advances but I don't think any of these things come even close to how much you can hurt Veronica or Allison.

You can take the latest episode. You can cheat on Veronica at the hotel, showing her the MC is a piece of shit thinking with his dick and it leads to an angry Vero scene. No matter how crazy her reaction is, it still does hurt her a lot. When you are on Jasmine route and fuck the hotel woman, you only miss Jasmine's text I believe. I think they should have or could have turned it into a "funny" - ish scene where the MC reads her text, comes to her room -- can't get hard. Jasmine recognizes it, realizes he already fucked someone else and angrily kicks him out.
It's not much but it's something..
 

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Jasmine recognizes it, realizes he already fucked someone else and angrily kicks him out.
As far as shes concerned, they can't be a thing and has told MC that he can fuck around and she doesn't care

Whether she'll begin to get jealous or not is a different story, but an actual relationship with her feels like more a slow burn, as opposed to someone like V. I feel like Jasmine is a "see some side content before committing later on" sort of character.

I feel like this is too early in the story to have to commit to one character
 

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As far as shes concerned, they can't be a thing and has told MC that he can fuck around and she doesn't care

Whether she'll begin to get jealous or not is a different story, but an actual relationship with her feels like more a slow burn, as opposed to someone like V. I feel like Jasmine is a "see some side content before committing later on" sort of character.

I feel like this is too early in the story to have to commit to one character
It is not exactly about being jealous but it would show that to him, she's like any other lay if you do that. Jasmine is proud and wouldn't take this disrespect. Meaning MC fucks a girl and moments after goes and tries to have sex with Jasmine. It's just a thing that came to my mind.
 

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It is not exactly about being jealous but it would show that to him, she's like any other lay if you do that. Jasmine is proud and wouldn't take this disrespect. Meaning MC fucks a girl and moments after goes and tries to have sex with Jasmine. It's just a thing that came to my mind.
no i see where you're coming from, but she also can't expect exclusivity if she's saying herself she doesn't want to, or can't commit while he's her professor
 

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Things are moving full speed ahead! The first two scenes are done, implemented into the code, and pretty much ready for testing. With this update, I realized I needed to change my workflow to improve testing and give myself more time to refine the code and fix bugs. Instead of working on the script separately, I now firstly implement dialogues directly into the code, adding images, descriptions, and potential SFX on the go. Previously, I did this in batches every few scenes—or even worse, right before release—leaving very little time for testers (and myself) to properly go through everything. That wasn't really smart.

Honestly, I often lacked motivation for coding and preferred focusing on visuals and animations. Since I’m not a professional programmer, I have to admit that coding isn’t my favorite part of developing Race of Life. But now that I start with the code and then create the images based on it, I feel much more motivated! It also helps me fix potential bugs right away and properly set up variables, choices, and other mechanics.

Tomorrow, I’m heading off for a much-needed two-week vacation! After the release and a whole year of hard work, I really need a break. These are long-awaited holidays, and even though I’ve been taking things a bit slower since Race of Life launched on Steam, I’m still keeping up with Joshua—he's doing his part, and I’m almost catching up to him. I’m sure there will be plenty to do when I get back.

So, I'll let you know more in about 3–4 weeks when I’m back. But for now… time to rest and recharge!

Thanks for your support, and see you soon! ❤
 
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