Penfold Mole

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...doesnt her head look weirdly big in this render?...
Not really. I mean, the normal human head to body proportions are around about 8 to 1 from the top of the head to the soles of the feet or 6 to 1 from the top of the head to the knees. Still seems to be around the same ballpark. Thick hair sometimes make the head seem bigger, as they do here.
 

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PLEASE NO SPOILERS!! I'm just looking to see if anyone's thoughts/guesses line up with mine. I'm at the point where the MC and Allison check out the wake up institute. Am I just being too paranoid? Or does the wake up institute's process line up a little too perfectly with the MC's project/thesis? Especially given the events leading up to Lily's "accident" and a little there after.
 

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PLEASE NO SPOILERS!! I'm just looking to see if anyone's thoughts/guesses line up with mine. I'm at the point where the MC and Allison check out the wake up institute. Am I just being too paranoid? Or does the wake up institute's process line up a little too perfectly with the MC's project/thesis? Especially given the events leading up to Lily's "accident" and a little there after.
I'm not sure if "paranoid" is the right term for it, but no, I'm not on the same page as you there.
 
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Not read above as not played yet and don't want spoilers but most of the Mac links are for pc.
 
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Good game with a pretty well executed story and characters. I would say that the only problem it has is the individual main LI paths where one of them (Jasmine) is like the game's love child and others lag behind.

I don't really have a favorite, I'd rate the paths like this Jasmine > Veronica> Maggie > Allison

Maggie was my early favorite. She seemed to be a wholesome and reserved woman whose progress towards being more daring would be more gradual. Sadly that wasn't true and in one scene it goes from 0 to 100 super quick heh. She does have lovely dates and the dogs like each other so that's a big plus. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Allison is a good character but they only did half job with her path. It is good that they worked on her resentment but they kinda forgot the MC exists too. Slow burn or not, they needed to establish that the MC still cares and has feelings for her too. He won't act on them but they are there and all hope is not lost. In the end the MC came off as uninterested and being fine with thinking she hates him. He hopes to not get too close to her and that is pretty much it. I don't think this is how you sell the path to the player?

Veronica is at least an interesting character and her path has a direction. She has tons of flaws but fuck it.. let's rock. She prolly gonna kill me if I keep cheating on her on alt run. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Don't think much needs to be said about Jasmine. The obvious fan favorite..she's smart and confident. You get to go to events together, race together and fuck together. Her dynamic with the MC is the most natural and honestly she almost seems like the canon choice. She has flaws but these are barely explored and there is nothing really discouraging about her path. Even better when you know whats coming.. lets fuck, figure out what we are later.. good
I personally hope that in the future, it's possible that Allison, Maggie or Veronica appear at the racing events if you go down their paths. It would be cool to see Cooper and Allison, something that you could possibly decide on. And without negative consequences since Cooper would be around, and if you performed well during the races consistently: you might even have Toby looking out for you. Not because he's a good person (he's not, he seems to be lawful evil type of dude) but because he knows you bring in the money and he likes it when you make it rain - either for yourself or for him with all the money off of the bets he makes. (Like with the second race: where he ends up cleaning almost everyone out.)
 
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I personally hope that in the future, it's possible that Allison, Maggie or Veronica appear at the racing events if you go down their paths. It would be cool to see Cooper and Allison, something that you could possibly decide on. And without negative consequences since Cooper would be around, and if you performed well during the races consistently: you might even have Toby looking out for you. Not because he's a good person (he's not, he seems to be lawful evil type of dude) but because he knows you bring in the money and he likes it when you make it rain - either for yourself or for him with all the money off of the bets he makes. (Like with the second race: where he ends up cleaning almost everyone out.)
Definitely a good idea. I'd like to see that. It could be pretty funny esp with Veronica there.

I deleted my post since I wanted to make my points clearer, I didn't expect a reply this fast heh. My bad
 

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Definitely a good idea. I'd like to see that. It could be pretty funny esp with Veronica there.

I deleted my post since I wanted to make my points clearer, I didn't expect a reply this fast heh. My bad
I don't think we would see Allison there. She seems to don't want having anything to do with illegal stuff (except for the money if it's for her kid).
 
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I don't think we would see Allison there. She seems to don't want having anything to day with illegal stuff (except for the money if it's for her kid).
Yeah...Unfortunately I do agree, though maybe Camilla might be able to trick her into going, if Allison and MC end up looking more and more like a couple again? You know, as a way of showing Allison how much MC is dedicated to getting the money and so on.

But I don't think that would happen, would be cool though.
 
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I personally hope that in the future, it's possible that Allison, Maggie or Veronica appear at the racing events if you go down their paths. It would be cool to see Cooper and Allison, something that you could possibly decide on. And without negative consequences since Cooper would be around, and if you performed well during the races consistently: you might even have Toby looking out for you. Not because he's a good person (he's not, he seems to be lawful evil type of dude) but because he knows you bring in the money and he likes it when you make it rain - either for yourself or for him with all the money off of the bets he makes. (Like with the second race: where he ends up cleaning almost everyone out.)
Yep, definitely hoping to see Maggie start being more involved in the things in the MC's life - I'm sure the devs have that planned to be integrated at some point in the future as it just makes sense as the relationships get more serious, etc.
 

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I don't think we would see Allison there. She seems to don't want having anything to do with illegal stuff (except for the money if it's for her kid).


I actually think that it is quite possible.

Jasmine talked up the MC to Allison in latest episode. Speaking about how he improved, what he does for his students and how he trains with Ham to be good at racing and to win the events for Lily. This should tell her how serious the MC is about everything and that he grew as a person. The MC is taking on a big risk and Allison finding out more about it should make her more curious and wanting to see for herself.

Allison believes that MC's car doesn't like her. I'm blanking on the name of the car, I think it was Delilah or something like that. What a better way of showing her that it is not true than winning a race together? The MC inviting her, Allison showing her support and that she appreciates what he is doing could be a great moment for them which would bring them one step closer together.

Act 2 needs to be big for her path, unless they decide keep dragging it out at the current pace across 5+ acts and lose any interest people have in it. It needs to make it clear that the MC still has feelings for her and that he wants to try and win her back. They can keep working on her resentment and at the same time work on the MC too. The best case scenario is that first episode establishes he still has feelings for her and hasn't thrown in the towel and second episode we see him being more proactive and trying to get closer to her. To start winning her over, not because of Lily but because he still loves her. The Lily excuse can't keep going on forever. Her path actually needs to start somehow and so they obviously need more moments together... racing serves as a great opportunity to me.
 
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I actually think that it is quite possible.

Jasmine talked up the MC to Allison in latest episode. Speaking about how he improved, what he does for his students and how he trains with Ham to be good at racing and to win the events for Lily. This should tell her how serious the MC is about everything and that he grew as a person. The MC is taking on a big risk and Allison finding out more about it should make her more curious and wanting to see for herself.

Allison believes that MC's car doesn't like her. I'm blanking on the name of the car, I think it was Delilah or something like that. What a better way of showing her that it is not true than winning a race together? The MC inviting her, Allison showing her support and that she appreciates what he is doing could be a great moment for them which would bring them one step closer together.

Act 2 needs to be big for her path, unless they decide keep dragging it out at the current pace across 5+ acts and lose any interest people have in it. It needs to make it clear that the MC still has feelings for her and that he wants to try and win her back. They can keep working on her resentment and at the same time work on the MC too. The best case scenario is that first episode establishes he still has feelings for her and hasn't thrown in the towel and second episode we see him being more proactive and trying to get closer to her. To start winning her over, not because of Lily but because he still loves her. The Lily excuse can't keep going on forever. Her path actually needs to start somehow and so they obviously need more moments together... racing serves as a great opportunity to me.
I still don't think she will ride with him, at least until their kid is (semi)-healthy again. Who would care for the kid if she gets arrested for illegal streetracing? Worst case scenario, she will lose her daughter.
 

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I actually think that it is quite possible.

Jasmine talked up the MC to Allison in latest episode. Speaking about how he improved, what he does for his students and how he trains with Ham to be good at racing and to win the events for Lily. This should tell her how serious the MC is about everything and that he grew as a person. The MC is taking on a big risk and Allison finding out more about it should make her more curious and wanting to see for herself.

Allison believes that MC's car doesn't like her. I'm blanking on the name of the car, I think it was Delilah or something like that. What a better way of showing her that it is not true than winning a race together? The MC inviting her, Allison showing her support and that she appreciates what he is doing could be a great moment for them which would bring them one step closer together.

Act 2 needs to be big for her path, unless they decide keep dragging it out at the current pace across 5+ acts and lose any interest people have in it. It needs to make it clear that the MC still has feelings for her and that he wants to try and win her back. They can keep working on her resentment and at the same time work on the MC too. The best case scenario is that first episode establishes he still has feelings for her and hasn't thrown in the towel and second episode we see him being more proactive and trying to get closer to her. To start winning her over, not because of Lily but because he still loves her. The Lily excuse can't keep going on forever. Her path actually needs to start somehow and so they obviously need more moments together... racing serves as a great opportunity to me.
The only scenario I could see where Allison ends up in the car with Jake racing is if Wyatt is physically after her and Jake needs to race at the same time. Otherwise, there's no way. She can't afford to get hurt or have her reputation affected by being arrested or connected to illegal racing. Besides, Jasmine is already the "car" girl, no reason to have all the LIs do it. I do think Allison's route needs to pick up the pace a bit but hopefully the next episode/chapter takes care of that.
 
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I still don't think she will ride with him, at least until their kid is (semi)-healthy again. Who would care for the kid if she gets arrested for illegal streetracing? Worst case scenario, she will lose her daughter.
Sure, that is reasonable. I think that just being there and showing her support is big enough and makes a lot of sense too. They are in it together. Maybe she could bond more with Coop while MC is racing :ROFLMAO:
 
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I actually think that it is quite possible.

Jasmine talked up the MC to Allison in latest episode. Speaking about how he improved, what he does for his students and how he trains with Ham to be good at racing and to win the events for Lily. This should tell her how serious the MC is about everything and that he grew as a person. The MC is taking on a big risk and Allison finding out more about it should make her more curious and wanting to see for herself.

Allison believes that MC's car doesn't like her. I'm blanking on the name of the car, I think it was Delilah or something like that. What a better way of showing her that it is not true than winning a race together? The MC inviting her, Allison showing her support and that she appreciates what he is doing could be a great moment for them which would bring them one step closer together.

Act 2 needs to be big for her path, unless they decide keep dragging it out at the current pace across 5+ acts and lose any interest people have in it. It needs to make it clear that the MC still has feelings for her and that he wants to try and win her back. They can keep working on her resentment and at the same time work on the MC too. The best case scenario is that first episode establishes he still has feelings for her and hasn't thrown in the towel and second episode we see him being more proactive and trying to get closer to her. To start winning her over, not because of Lily but because he still loves her. The Lily excuse can't keep going on forever. Her path actually needs to start somehow and so they obviously need more moments together... racing serves as a great opportunity to me.
If you did everything right, their current relationship seems to have went to at least a "I am smitten with you but I don't want to show it too much." stage. Which is major progress given your first (in game) meeting showing the resentment, anger and hate. The fact that she ultimately stays in bed with MC when he falls asleep instead of sleeping on the floor or a chair shows that while she's hesitant, she's actually beginning to move past all of that resentment. Not completely or *that* far yet, but it's a lot of progress given MC's major mess up pre-game.

What makes her the main gal for me though, is because of how much of a slow-burn the relationship is intended to be. And the warm, heartfelt looks she occasionally gives makes it all worth the while too.

This is all, of course...Just my opinion™
 

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If you did everything right, their current relationship seems to have went to at least a "I am smitten with you but I don't want to show it too much." stage. Which is major progress given your first (in game) meeting showing the resentment, anger and hate. The fact that she ultimately stays in bed with MC when he falls asleep instead of sleeping on the floor or a chair shows that while she's hesitant, she's actually beginning to move past all of that resentment. Not completely or *that* far yet, but it's a lot of progress given MC's major mess up pre-game.

What makes her the main gal for me though, is because of how much of a slow-burn the relationship is intended to be. And the warm, heartfelt looks she occasionally gives makes it all worth the while too.

This is all, of course...Just my opinion™
Sure, I mean each to their own.
When I play these games I wanna know that the MC is into the character I wanna pursue too. Yea, Allison is a slow burn but at the same time I think that one of the most important things is telling the player that there is still hope and even though the MC hurt her a lot, he still has feelings for her. This doesn't really happen and so her path is just kind of half empty.. undercooked.

I like her as a character, she is well done but the game doesn't sell me her path. It counts on my desire to win her over by giving me nice scenes with her and expecting me to ignore that the MC doesn't progress at the same time. As of ending of the first act, the MC remains uninterested and the outcomes of our choices went completely over his head.

I just think that the current pacing there is too slow even for a slow burn type of thing and I doubt any Allison fans wanna wait till act 4 to see the MC fight for her and then only have their back together happy moments only in epilogue.
 
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