lostraven

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I already said I don't care about Ai being used in that sense you don't need to tell me about it I know you guys are supportive to artists what I really care about ai stuff can looks somewhat good but has the weird shine for some art style , regardless this game for the last 2 years have been always going through something artists always having problems and you guys supporting them which is noble but the game suffers and I honestly just don't trust Ai delivering good.I don't believe the game will look good enough with that.This game has one of the better settings and one of the best writing as you can choose to do be a hero or even a bad person or somewhere in between and the storylines are great too but the art part has been going downhill for this game,first the new artstyle chosen looked so soft that it felt it didn't even belong in the setting and now you will be adding AI.These are just my thoughts I honestly don't believe AI being good enough.
If the AI fails to deliver, I'll reject it. My goal is very much "Can I and others tell in a line-up if it's AI?"
If the answers yes, it'll be rejected. Otherwise, it's just adding more problems.

As for the character art changing, the old character artist left, and while the new artist did have some early designs that weren't as detailed and as popular admittably, I feel they've improved significantly over time and broadly speaking, we get a good reception from the character art we produce now. (I am, however, always pushing my artists to improve and do better.)

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Sayajin2205

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If the AI fails to deliver, I'll reject it. My goal is very much "Can I and others tell in a line-up if it's AI?"
If the answers yes, it'll be rejected. Otherwise, it's just adding more problems.

As for the character art changing, the old character artist left, and while the new artist did have some early designs that weren't as detailed and as popular admittably, I feel they've improved significantly over time and broadly speaking, we get a good reception from the character art we produce now. (I am, however, always pushing my artists to improve and do better.)

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This looks clean but Erika's armour/clothes looks like she is cosplaying even if you remove the hat,The new artist draw the faces fine but most of the time the clothes/armour look wrong too soft,too cosplay like.But yeah good luck to you guys.
 
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TheCragger

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Does anyone know who the original artist for character sprites was? I'd just really like to see if they have a gallery out there to watch. I don't expect lostraven to say who it was out of reasonable fears. I'm just very curious who designed the original Ves.
 
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lostraven

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Does anyone know who the original artist for character sprites was? I'd just really like to see if they have a gallery out there to watch. I don't expect lostraven to say who it was out of reasonable fears. I'm just very curious who designed the original Ves.
I would say, but I genuinely cannot remember that artist's ID anymore.

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SheHump

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We further hope, of course, this approach will help speed up our production, but we are still entirely committed to delivering the highest quality we can.

We haven't made this decision lightly, we had many internal debates, and we're aware of the sensitive nature of AI, but we hope given the circumstances, and how we're handling things, you and the rest of our fans will be understanding.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. If the situation changes for whatever reason, we will let you know.

Thank you.

Alysha (Above) - If she survives her encounter with the Slave Master, she might just find a new meaning in life under the wing of Captain Nyx and the city guard
I've enjoyed my time so far, let's see what else Mirnos has to offer.
 

Luka__mindo

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Better than anything Ai tho side game with the famous adventurer gets better artist than the main game . People loved the art of this game.It used to look unique and to now have Ai art each time it gets downgraded it's just a sad state for such a cool concept and plot.First it was getting artists who draw everything too soft which looks out of place for the setting to now getting AI art.
I agree with you it had really cool art style . I understand to make it simpler to draw it over and over again for updates ,but I think currently it is to over-simplified and looks like AI made
 
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hotdogBD

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saw an anouncement in the discord regarding the artists? what is it about can any kinds souls help?
 

MidnightKing

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My only real complaint about the art style, especially coming from the old art, is not even that it's bad but rather it's like the character busts got disneyfied a bit. Just with the dark tone of the game the style feels very much the opposite and makes it stick out in a sort of awkward way to me. Plus it being much different in the sex scenes too adds onto that feel. Consequence of multiple art styles I guess.

Not to stir the art complaint pot, comments are going to get much worse should this get the AI tag I'm sure. I'm one to complain about it but given it's going to be under heavy scrutiny I'm not as worried.
 

whamos_olrac

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They're the new anti-NTR brigade. The louder they are, the more useless.

Steam feedback is positive, I'm guessing the SS people don't care either. But here the monkeys howl all night long :KEK:
...how is being anti-AI imagery akin to being anti-NTR? lol
 
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shadowtempest47

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I have no problem with AI being used in this instance as the artist can not produce due to reasons well out of their control and they have the artists blessing to us AI to fulfill the needs of the game. I will ask however that the artist would be paid to back fill the scenes later (when/if they are able to return to the scene.). Either fully with a complete redrawing or much more modestly if they just do touch ups/edits (if they feel that it was close enough to their vision.)
 

CannotDeny

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I think AI is fine. Its a tool just like a paintbrush. That being said, IMO the worst offender in this game is the sex scenes being very different from the regular art. Its unfortunate that they went for a 3d-ish animated route, I think still images would be way better. Would you guys be able to make the animated art match the regular art more? Most girls just don't look as good in the animated ones.
 

Youtiy

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It's literally made from the existing artists work with their blessing. Nothing has been *stolen.*

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Honestly I'm usually really against AI but in this case like you said nothing is stolen, it's being done with explicit consent from the original artist. Nothing morally wrong is being done here, the only problem you really could complain about is quality.
 

Gear42

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Most people are already familiar with the "quality" you get from AI, just look at how well its working for something like Taffy Tales.
 
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