NSFW AI chatbots

fbass

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Guys any reason JAI x Deepseek R1 keeps making JAI refresh and recheck if I'm human and sometimes fail to generate response?

Also, another update on my experience with R1.

I tried a Game Of Thrones RPG and I am so impressed by the responses. I am legit hooked! Like holy shit the responses are book accurate! R1 is smart.
I get those checks a lot even when I use JLLM. Some times every damn message.
 
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fbass

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Tbh, JAI is already on the downward spiral. They will probably ban NSFW at some point like the previous sites did once they started down this path.
Yeah, it's going to be a paid service soon too. There will still be a free version but we'll see if they still allow proxy.
 
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The best way to use AI chats (IMO):


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Can you link venus? i feel like I'm not finding the real site when I look.
 

D0v4hk1n

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Yeah, it's going to be a paid service soon too. There will still be a free version but we'll see if they still allow proxy.
Wait what?

Where was this announced? This is really bad news... If they keep JAI the way it is right now and keep allowing proxies + provide a premium sub with, say 16k or 24k context or something then ok but it seems like it's going the spicychat route.

If that happens, what's our alternative bros?
 

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Wait what?

Where was this announced? This is really bad news... If they keep JAI the way it is right now and keep allowing proxies + provide a premium sub with, say 16k or 24k context or something then ok but it seems like it's going the spicychat route.

If that happens, what's our alternative bros?
In short, seems like Shep (dev of JAI) is running out of funds so he looking for a way to keep the site afloat. He said the subscription are for bigger, better models only. So I wouldn't be surprised if proxy will be under "premium only" later on for obvious reasons.
 
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Wait what?

Where was this announced? This is really bad news... If they keep JAI the way it is right now and keep allowing proxies + provide a premium sub with, say 16k or 24k context or something then ok but it seems like it's going the spicychat route.

If that happens, what's our alternative bros?
It is what it is. We can just enjoy the content until nsfw is banned. We do live in capitalism.
 
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ionogo

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It's a learning curve for the uninitiated, but running a local model is always the best way. There are some that run on middling hardware that are quite good if you get the settings right.
 
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fbass

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Wait what?

Where was this announced? This is really bad news... If they keep JAI the way it is right now and keep allowing proxies + provide a premium sub with, say 16k or 24k context or something then ok but it seems like it's going the spicychat route.

If that happens, what's our alternative bros?
I've been using kobold. It has an online free and unlimited version. You do have to load a character card but it's very straight forward. Has lots of settings but works well right out of the box as well. " " I'm using deepseek3 through openrouter, pretty much the same way as JAI. It even has a photo generator built in.
 

ionogo

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Here is a reasonable start:

Install Koboldccp:
Download the version of Stheno 3.2 8b model that will fir in VRAM on your system:
Install SillyTavern:
Virt's Roleplay presets for Silly Tavern and Stheno:

Lots of places to get cards. 100% private, uncensored, locally run AI chatbots.

I've tried a lot of models, including paid API based models from Chub, Aignastic and others. In the end, locally run is a good idea. I don't want my chats kept in the history of some website. I'll take privacy.

If you do want to try 3rd party paid API based chat, I recommend Aignastic. Reasonably priced, some very good models there and they are reasonably performant.
 
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fbass

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Here is a reasonable start:

Install Koboldccp:
Download the version of Stheno 3.2 8b model that will fir in VRAM on your system:
Install SillyTavern:
Virt's Roleplay presets for Silly Tavern and Stheno:

Lots of places to get cards. 100% private, uncensored, locally run AI chatbots.

I've tried a lot of models, including paid API based models from Chub, Aignastic and others. In the end, locally run is a good idea. I don't want my chats kept in the history of some website. I'll take privacy.

If you do want to try 3rd party paid API based chat, I recommend Aignastic. Reasonably priced, some very good models there and they are reasonably performant.
This is by far the best model I've run locally.
 
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D0v4hk1n

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In short, seems like Shep (dev of JAI) is running out of funds so he looking for a way to keep the site afloat. He said the subscription are for bigger, better models only. So I wouldn't be surprised if proxy will be under "premium only" later on for obvious reasons.
wow...
 

liount

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Sep 28, 2017
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Huh...so which one is the better to spend time on? Cuase I'm seeing allot AI chat lingo I don't recognize...and maybe free trial?
 

ionogo

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This is by far the best model I've run locally.
So I tried the Q2 and Q3 GGUFs for Cydonia. Not much difference between them. These are gimped compared to the larger Cydonia quants, but anyways, Stheno 3.2 Q8 fits in 8.5GB of VRAM gave me markedly superior results to the Q2 and Q3 of Cydonia.

I didn't spend a lot of time on tweaking instruct and chat prompt presets, I used the suggested defaults for the model. You propbably know, preset can make a big difference.
 
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ionogo

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Huh...so which one is the better to spend time on? Cuase I'm seeing allot AI chat lingo I don't recognize...and maybe free trial?
That depends on whether you are willing to learn to host your own model. There are plenty of guides out there. If you want to use a service, Spicychat, JanitorAI or Chub are good bets if you need a fleshed out interface and you intend to chat on their site. If you intend to connect to a service over API while running SillyTavern locally, then I recommend Aignastic
 

desmosome

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I just found out deepseek is proficient at writing foreign langue dialogues. Like being able to write the gooning kind dialogues with slang, curses, and sexual terms in that crude smut lingo.

I guess it might be obvious since GPT is a great translating tool for Japanese porn games, but prior to using deepseek, none of the free models I've tried could even come close to doing it.
 

liount

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Sep 28, 2017
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That depends on whether you are willing to learn to host your own model. There are plenty of guides out there. If you want to use a service, Spicychat, JanitorAI or Chub are good bets if you need a fleshed out interface and you intend to chat on their site. If you intend to connect to a service over API while running SillyTavern locally, then I recommend Aignastic
Well if hosting a model won't take up space on my laptop and I can avoid paying just to have a better experience with the AI I van learn.