VN Ren'Py Mommy's Boy [v0.1] [Onyxdime / DreamBigGames]

[Escuro]

Why are you hung up on the correct meaning of the term? Think of it like this: Lauren is first and foremost a mother and nothing can change that.

What else are you expecting to see? My very first comment was pointing out that this isn't NTR and it's strange to be calling it as such. Just because people view NTR as other things doesn't mean anything.

If I said I viewed "incest" to actually not mean incestuous relations between family, and said that I view it more as strangers roleplaying as step-siblings not even sexually, others would understandably go, "What is your damage?"

Long and short of it is, NTR is a specific thing, calling something as such when it isn't is obviously going to aggravate someone at somepoint. And that's me, the guy I am, now, at this time. Truthfully just the question of asking why I am hung up on the correct use of a tag has thrown me for a loop and if that was the goal, you're a master

 

[TsubameYui]

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NTR is cheating. That is the entire genre. That is what it is.

That is a very basic, and inaccurate, definition of the term.

Noun
netorare (uncountable)

1. (Japanese pornography, slang) A genre of cuckoldry pornography where a protagonist's love interest or close associate is corrupted and taken away by an antagonist.

The main point is that it's intentional, and meant to cause jealousy in the victim. Most people would be equally hurt/jealous if their enemy/rival/bully/etc. started banging their wife as they would their family members or close friends.

Basically, romantic interest is not a requirement for NTR to take place, just needs to be someone stealing an important person from the victim through sex, and turning them against the victim.

There are a plethora of hard-NTR porn, games, manga, etc. where the target is specifically the victim's family members/childhood friends, with whom they are not romantically or sexually interested/involved. Mom and/or sister(s) are extremely common NTR targets in such works.

 

[Derpyshanks]

That is a very basic, and inaccurate, definition of the term.

Noun
netorare (uncountable)

1. (Japanese pornography, slang) A genre of cuckoldry pornography where a protagonist's love interest or close associate is corrupted and taken away by an antagonist.

The main point is that it's intentional, and meant to cause jealousy in the victim. Most people would be equally hurt/jealous if their enemy/rival/bully/etc. started banging their wife as they would their family members or close friends.

Basically, romantic interest is not a requirement for NTR to take place, just needs to be someone stealing an important person from the victim through sex, and turning them against the victim.

There are a plethora of hard-NTR porn, games, manga, etc. where the target is specifically the victim's family members/childhood friends, with whom they are not romantically or sexually interested/involved. Mom and/or sister(s) are extremely common NTR targets in such works.

^ This.

Here's an example

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MC is just childhood friends with the girl. Never was a couple. So no cheating/infidelity in this story. In spite of that, it a 100% NTR plot.

 

[Hmm...]

Oh finally. There are not enough cuckquean games available.

 

[Escuro]

That is a very basic, and inaccurate, definition of the term.

Noun
netorare (uncountable)

1. (Japanese pornography, slang) A genre of cuckoldry pornography where a protagonist's love interest or close associate is corrupted and taken away by an antagonist.

I straight up do not understand how this definition is gonna try and say that a form of cuckoldry can include something other than a love interest.




I would absolutely argue that broadening the description beyond this is inaccurate, rather than excluding that tacked-on part of the description being the inaccuracy. NTR can't be in place without a love-interest, without a relationship of that nature, because it's cuckoldry, which is very specific in its description. That blatantly doesn't make sense to me. It seems like it's just tacking on an additional criteria out of nowhere, overly broadening the term to include something that directly contradicts the earlier description -- my batshit example of incest being between RPing strangers is more accurate than saying you can be cucked by someone you aren't romantically involved with. By the logic of a "close associate", if you get on well with your boss, your boss' wife not liking you and getting you fired by manipulating him is somehow NTR.

But I mean damn, it's on Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, so that's where the road ends.

And at the end of the day it's not like rehashing "This is what NTR is" 30 more times in the thread is gonna make the tag fall off. It's not like anyone else here is gonna change their minds. If the mother has a pre-existing relationship with the son, then it becomes NTR with literally no way to argue against it from any angle. But that would also go against whatever corruption angle I imagine the game is trying to spin.

So fuck it. I really don't want to get in another goddamn argument on this website. First from saying something I thought was an innocuous question. This time from saying something I thought people would genuinely unanimously agree with.

So you win and I'll just slink away defeated like some form of plagued rat.

 

[TsubameYui]

I straight up do not understand how this definition is gonna try and say that a form of cuckoldry can include something other than a love interest.

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I would absolutely argue that broadening the description beyond this is inaccurate, rather than excluding that tacked-on part of the description being the inaccuracy. NTR can't be in place without a love-interest, without a relationship of that nature, because it's cuckoldry, which is very specific in its description. That blatantly doesn't make sense to me. It seems like it's just tacking on an additional criteria out of nowhere, overly broadening the term to include something that directly contradicts the earlier description -- my batshit example of incest being between RPing strangers is more accurate than saying you can be cucked by someone you aren't romantically involved with. By the logic of a "close associate", if you get on well with your boss, your boss' wife not liking you and getting you fired by manipulating him is somehow NTR.

But I mean damn, it's on Wikipedia, the free encyclopaedia that anyone can edit, so that's where the road ends.

And at the end of the day it's not like rehashing "This is what NTR is" 30 more times in the thread is gonna make the tag fall off. It's not like anyone else here is gonna change their minds. If the mother has a pre-existing relationship with the son, then it becomes NTR with literally no way to argue against it from any angle. But that would also go against whatever corruption angle I imagine the game is trying to spin.

So fuck it. I really don't want to get in another goddamn argument on this website. First from saying something I thought was an innocuous question. This time from saying something I thought people would genuinely unanimously agree with.

So you win and I'll just slink away defeated like some form of plagued rat.

Just so you know, I am enjoying this discussion, and I hope you are as well.

I'm a native English and Japanese polyglot. I work as a professional linguist/translator/editor/proofreader. The main issue you are having is equating netorare with cuckolding. The two are mutually exclusive terms and fetishes.

It's a common problem, since lazy and uninterested people have made the "official" English definition of netorare read as "cuckold". Cuckoldry does indeed require adultery to fit the fetish and definition. Netorare on the other hand is broader, and simply means the stealing of a person close to the victim. There is no proper equivalent English word for netorare, as the word was only invented to describe a unique fetish that originated in Japan. Cuckold just happens to be the only English word that describes anything close to netorare's actual meaning, but it is quite lacking.

It's kind of like "all thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs". All cuckolding is netorare, but not all netorare is cuckolding.

 

[fellz]

the concept is intriguing, i'm down.

 

[GokutheG]

So from what I'm gathering from this discussion is that ntr has become like futanari where the original Japanese meaning has been altered in the conversion to English.

It really seems like the fans are really passionate about these tags and their use.

 

[Bvxg7]

+

 

[SuperPerv96]

the girls looks amazing!! specially the mom C: also i find quite interesting the idea of the mom having to compete with the other girl to get her son attention

 

[BadWolf71]

will there be breeding/pregnancy?

Onyxdime I also would like to know

 

[tossler]

yeah some choices affect the bars on the left

Does anyone know what those bars are supposed to represent?

 

[drhotrod]

Doing the correct choices for the mother moved the love bar too much, there is not much room for it to increase with new releases if this was supposed to a slow burn game.

 

[Kukipett]

So from what I'm gathering from this discussion is that ntr has become like futanari where the original Japanese meaning has been altered in the conversion to English.

It really seems like the fans are really passionate about these tags and their use.

This never ending discussion about NTR is ridiculous. Tags are for pussies who feel offended by seeing something they don't like.
You try a story, you like it or not, this is simple as this. I don't care much about tags or reviews, this is bullshit most of the time.
Avoiding a VN just because there is a tag in it and you may miss the best story, just open you mind and try things.

 

[Onyxdime]

will there be breeding/pregnancy?

Onyxdime I also would like to know

Sorry, missed your questions when the thread was quite active earlier on! We haven't made a decision on this yet. I'll note down that multiple people have requested it on our feedback document.

Does anyone know what those bars are supposed to represent?

The bars represent the attitude portrayed by the mother based on her actions. She is either seductive, loving, or nonchalant in her approach to her son.

Doing the correct choices for the mother moved the love bar too much, there is not much room for it to increase with new releases if this was supposed to a slow burn game.

I wouldn't describe any choice as necessarily "correct." The best way to enjoy this game is to pick the choice that you feel is right in the moment. You aren't locked into any specific route.

The bar resets each day - but the consequences of how you acted on previous days are tracked in the code.

 

[meanmike]

I like the game it's pretty funny without being a parody. Models are pretty good too. One small criticism though : the arm hair on jacob looks really weird I think you should just remove it entirely for future updates

Hope you can finish it, good luck!

 

[DreamBig Games]

Doing the correct choices for the mother moved the love bar too much, there is not much room for it to increase with new releases if this was supposed to a slow burn game.

The bars get refreshed each day.
The base mechanic of the game is this:
Each choice you make affects your Loving Mom, Sexy Mom or Uncaring Mom. At the end of the day, during the dinner, we calculate what was strongest during that day, and we branch the end of the day actions based on that.
For example, on Day 2 there are 3 different branches:


We also keep track of the choices you made and the End of Day result, and this will affect choices/ events available on follwoing days.
For example, if you leave the office too many times, you will be forced to give in to the Boss's sex request or lose your job ( and lose the game ).

 

[DreamBig Games]

Onyxdime Son's model is VERY VERY mid, I would even say trash, I don't see how these gorgeous women will fight for him at all, doesn't make sense, LOL, he doesn't deserve it. Was it really that hard to make him look better?

When we designed the game, we intended for the Son to be just a means for Vicki to get back on Mom. She is doing this not because she is attracted to him, but just out of a warped sense of motherhood.

 

[BadWolf71]

Sorry, missed your questions when the thread was quite active earlier on! We haven't made a decision on this yet. I'll note down that multiple people have requested it on our feedback document.

Thank you for replying and I agree that the thread is very active. Some of the great games are that way, most of them are my sig. But you are offering something different & unique. I'm not a NTR guy, I avoid those games. Don't get me wrong, I know it happens in the games I play, they just aren't mentioned or developed to a point were it turns me off. I am playing something else right now and plan on giving your game try next.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

The bars get refreshed each day.
The base mechanic of the game is this:
Each choice you make affects your Loving Mom, Sexy Mom or Uncaring Mom. At the end of the day, during the dinner, we calculate what was strongest during that day, and we branch the end of the day actions based on that.
For example, on Day 2 there are 3 different branches: View attachment 4637881


We also keep track of the choices you made and the End of Day result, and this will affect choices/ events available on follwoing days.
For example, if you leave the office too many times, you will be forced to give in to the Boss's sex request or lose your job ( and lose the game ).

Hold on a minute, did you just say if the son has sex with his boss, it’s GAME OVER? WTF, then why did you make his boss so hot, you should have made her look like a hag then. I’m trying to bang mom and the boss but without them both finding out. I mean dudes a virgin so he just wants to lose his vCard, but moms been cock blocking him and until she gives it up he should go find some ho from the boutique, you know special discount on there clothes
For some sexual favors