Well you gotta pick your poison. I am currently making my own game at the moment and trust me, its a lot harder than you think it is. Just trying to make sense of how the FMC getting corrupted while the MC is not a dumbass and being believable is annoying as fuck. You wanna create hot scene but without skipping to the jump. This series is a whole lot better than I initially give it credit for that i am taking note. At least Lisa is in the role is the girl friend who her BF is unavailable and incompetent. A realistic take. A lot of other series gets dragged out after awhile I feel like dev just give in, jump the shark after the slow burn to 180 here my big schong suck it girl I am like wut? Shamandev in Shadow of desire. No try studios in king of summers. This other series called Fate wont separate us. Etc. Oblivious is at least giving a story take, finger cross, I actually subscribed for the demon tier. I would like the for the BBC dude to dick in hard the FMC pussy and what not, but the substances is important that I am willing to wait a bit.
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Currently devving two NTR games myself. I vote for just keeping the MC a complete doucebag or dummy or both. Can't wait to see what you have in store. You forgot to also add Bawdy Traditions to the mix. I agree, hardest part is making a FMC that's actually as hot as the one in this game.
You just made me laugh with the Fate comparison because I realized how its basically a 3D Daz version of this game if you remove the plots. Stud BBC pursing the thick Red head. The formula is so simple yet so fantastic.
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The FMC prot thing isn't really a new thing. You're still doing things to advance the plot ie buying the gym clothes to workout with Kord. That can easily be done in a VN style or RPGM. To me its actually hotter when the story is told from an internal dialogue perspective.
For example: We could have had a few lines in the script where she debates the reason she's truly buying the gym clothes and it would have fit in nicely with her corruption scene masturbating later. Instead, we have to GRIND and GRIND and GRIND, click to the next day and hope the scene triggers. Here to tell you from experience by the time the game is finished it turns into a buggy mess in the longrun. Its the reason I HATE sandbox in these games unless it's done right.
Again, rare for me to even give my 2 cents so its a testament to how good this dev is and how much I want it to be great. I actually look forward to this game with each release. Were still in the slow burn stage. I can only imagine how hot its going to be if combat elements are added or the FMC gets banged while the MC sleeps in the same bed etc. This could be as hot as Hero Party or SAO just less buggy and with a better stud.
I would have to disagree with you. I feel like Oblivious try better than other DEV. Shadow of Desire developed by ShamanDev was one of my favorite when it was RPGM, it inspired me to start on my own journey. The sandbox and free roam of guessing and grinding was the enjoyment. Although Shaman story telling was questionable, I respect DEV taking the extra effort of implementing the interaction game play where you have to guess what is next. Once Shaman move to REN PY, the quality was overall hurt in my opinion. But Shaman art style is so GODLY, there none like ShamanDev in Rule 34. There is King of Summer by No try Studios with an
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style was decent but the recent updates stream line the grind to automictically just getting the points, Fate won't separate by Phallus is funny approach but has no kind of choices or grind, I don't care for the characters. I want to create a game where the story is grounded, but yet gradually HOT, moving into something as close to realistically being BBC related but all kind of incest and corruption, it is so hard to write, that I re write my scripts over and over again. Then there is the corruption part, how do I make the boyfriend so unlikable or incompetent that the FMC is willing to cheats, cuck or get gives into the blackmail. Man the journey so hard. I am an artistic individual who drew all my live. Like i do portrait and realistic drawing. I am making the attempt to get into 3d, blender daz and all. But it is always the plot and mechanics that bugs the shit outta me. How do I make it believable, but yet hot AF, but yet satisfied to me first, and also if I ever build a following satisfied to them. I hope one day when I release my rule 34 game, people don't drive me to quit, because I am afraid. Sorry been drinking all night long.
Nice to see the audio issues still haven't been fixed. I mentioned this ages ago but the moans and other sex sounds are stupidly loud compared to everything else in this game. To make matters worse, the volume sliders don't work for anything besides the music. So while playing this my Windows volume is set to like 5% just so I don't make the entire building block wonder what the hell I'm doing here (or blow out my eardrums when I'm using headphones)..
I remember the dev replying to me a while back, asking if I could elaborate on the issues I was having but apparently they didn't care enough to bother to fix it..
Been a while since I've played this game, it had a promising start besides the audio issues so I figured enough time has passed to see how it's doing. Now I kinda wish I had stayed away for much longer.. I don't mind slow burn games one bit, but this was repetitive as hell and frankly just got more and more boring as it was dragging on. It's like Oblivious is playing a game of "How many handjobs and masturbation scenes can I jam into my game before the fans get fed up and start asking for some actual progression?"...
It would've been completely fine if there were interesting scenes to fill up the gaps, but literally the only thing happening after a certain point is "Hey, come here and let me cum on your face. Cool thanks, goodnight". I mean, you can only throw so many of those my way before it starts to get stale, and this got stale really damn fast if I'm being honest.
And I'm sorry, but a 2-handed handjob is still just a handjob, not sure why it's being presented as if it's such a big deal.. Even for someone as inexperienced as Lisa that was just silly..
Look, I know I'm being rather harsh here, but this honestly made me feel like Oblivious is just trolling the fuck out of everyone. What was the point of this? It did nothing to further the story, it did nothing to further Lisa's corruption and it did nothing to make the game more fun or interesting. You could literally just delete "Turning Point 1" from the game and nothing would change... It's just a bunch of uninspired boring fluff, which is disappointing for a game that had such a strong start.
I remember the dev replying to me a while back, asking if I could elaborate on the issues I was having but apparently they didn't care enough to bother to fix it..
Been a while since I've played this game, it had a promising start besides the audio issues so I figured enough time has passed to see how it's doing. Now I kinda wish I had stayed away for much longer.. I don't mind slow burn games one bit, but this was repetitive as hell and frankly just got more and more boring as it was dragging on. It's like Oblivious is playing a game of "How many handjobs and masturbation scenes can I jam into my game before the fans get fed up and start asking for some actual progression?"...
It would've been completely fine if there were interesting scenes to fill up the gaps, but literally the only thing happening after a certain point is "Hey, come here and let me cum on your face. Cool thanks, goodnight". I mean, you can only throw so many of those my way before it starts to get stale, and this got stale really damn fast if I'm being honest.
And I'm sorry, but a 2-handed handjob is still just a handjob, not sure why it's being presented as if it's such a big deal.. Even for someone as inexperienced as Lisa that was just silly..
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Look, I know I'm being rather harsh here, but this honestly made me feel like Oblivious is just trolling the fuck out of everyone. What was the point of this? It did nothing to further the story, it did nothing to further Lisa's corruption and it did nothing to make the game more fun or interesting. You could literally just delete "Turning Point 1" from the game and nothing would change... It's just a bunch of uninspired boring fluff, which is disappointing for a game that had such a strong start.
My bad, I've fixed it for the next version. For now, it's avoidable by viewing that scene during either the day or night.
You must have favor 50 and have gone to the guild first, if that's the case you can't see the scene then let me know.
Also, any time a hint says that an event is on any day other than 1, that means there are events that come before it.
After deciding to focus on the scenes for an update or two more and you still being the only person to ever complain about it, I decided to stick to my original thought, that most people use their PC/phone's master volume rather than the renpy one.
I'm not a fan of the type of game you want it to be. I agree with Xill on a bunch of things he's said, being able to control the heroine/s and having all of the corruption happen be because of their own decisions is something that's been a core part of this game since the beginning when I was planning it.
But I do agree that the current loops are quite repetitive, I have tried to focus on them as little as possible whilst still adding some so that I can focus on the main scenes. But it's in my plans to make the game feel more like there are things happening between each scene.
Also, this game will always stay as sandbox first and foremost, but I do plan on adding options to make it so that it's essentially a visual novel for those that want it to be like that.
I'm sorry, but if you did not care at all for the added time of day and addition of hidden NTR into the game nor understand what the point of the "turning point" is then you're not really my target audience to begin with.
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Yes, I have 60 favor and I've been to the guild already, but all I've gotten is the text about wanting a massage and asking for it tomorrow or something like that, but I still can't trigger the scene. I'll leave you my save so you can check it out, maybe I'm overlooking something
PS: Btw, when Yuto and Kord are in the training room, when I chose the option for Yuto to do squads and ask for Kord's help to show him, this error occurs. And yesterday while I was trying to trigger the scene, I somehow managed to get the screen that appears when you can't help with the exercise to appear after clicking on any option (like going to sleep)
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I'm sure that what you're saying is true, and I use my PC's master volume as well. But lowering the master volume doesn't solve the problem of the audio being incredibly unbalanced. No matter how low you set your master volume, the sex sounds are still much louder than everything else in the game with no way to adjust that.
You could've opened up any of Lily's scenes as an example to see just how glaring the imbalance is.
Just because only one person takes the time to mention a problem doesn't mean the problem doesn't exist or isn't worth fixing. But in the end it's your game, you decide what you want to fix and what not. All I did was point out a problem, if you think it's not worth your time then it is what it is.
I wouldn't say I don't care for any of that, I just didn't mention it in my message because there were other things on my mind that I wanted to talk about, which in this case were my thoughts on "Turning Point 1" and some of the events leading up to it.
It's very easy to say "you're just not my target audience" whenever someone says something bad about your product, but that's just a poor way to cope with negative feedback which causes you to not acknowledge that there might be some truth to whatever that person is saying.
But alright, let's set aside my personal opinions on "Turning Point 1" and focus more on what I think your point with that segment might've been.
I'll name a few possibilities of what I think your point might've been after playing through it;
'To show us that Lisa's sex life is lackluster and empty without Kord'
- Already knew that, this was pretty obvious from the start so I have my doubts this was specifically your intended point.
'To show us that Lisa misses Kord when he's not around'
- Didn't need this segment for that, she already made it clear that she views Kord as more than a friend so it only makes sense that she would miss him.
'To show us that Lisa gets jealous whenever Kord has sex with others'
- We already saw that through her interactions with Lily so again, probably not the actual point.
Or, going by the name of this segment;
'To show Lisa's "turning point" where she gets ready to admit to herself that she's not merely doing all these things to help Kord, but actually wants to do them herself resulting in Lisa giving into him more easily'
- The problem with this one, is that nothing like that is really happening here. At least, no more than it already has been happening, so if this was the point it kinda missed the goal. My experience was just me clicking through several days of nothing much happening, with Lisa getting increasingly sexually frustrated and it then ending with an anti-climax.
Of course it's possible that I missed some meaning behind it all, and if that's the case feel free to let me know what that is because I would be curious to learn how much I missed the mark.
Listen, it's not like I hate your game. In fact it's the opposite, which is why I came back to check it out again after a fairly long time. I know my previous message sounded harsh and may have been a bit more blunt than I would usually intend, but I stand by what I said. It was getting frustrating to see the game stagnate like that after the handjobs/facials started happening.
It really felt like progression kinda halted for the rest of the current content (including "Turning Point 1", as I personally didn't feel like there was any notable progress during that part), which was disappointing because I do like this game and I'd like to see it become the best it can be.
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It's not like we didn't get anything. We got the implementation of a couple of mechanics like having Yuto roam the house. That's kinda big for those that want more of the actual NTR aspect. Being able to choose who you sit with when both Kord and Yuto are in the same room is a pretty hot mechanic and I can see it getting updated with each new version.
And honestly, when the time comes for Kord to fuck Lisa, we're probably gonna get tons of scenes of him fucking her in every room of the house, like he did with Lily.
And let's be real. We're getting an update each month, which is a pretty rare thing, especially for western games.
And honestly, when the time comes for Kord to fuck Lisa, we're probably gonna get tons of scenes of him fucking her in every room of the house, like he did with Lily.
And let's be real. We're getting an update each month, which is a pretty rare thing, especially for western games.
Balbaar's comment is a bit lengthy and maybe harsh but I think he presents good points. I like slow-burn corruption too but the progression feels a bit too slow to the point that it starts to feel unrealistic as sexual corruption is an impulse thing. It's more realistic to portray it as a slippery slope. Slow at first but could easily get out of control after the first "turning point". I think this is why corruption typically involves blackmail. It's initially slow but it allows for the sexual relationship to smoothly transition into a hot and wild one after the turning point/change in power dynamic.
For example, for the "turning point" scene, it felt meh to most people because there was so much buildup but in the end, Lisa was able to hold on. Imho, Lily's sequence of events make up for a much better formula and was the true turning point. She got sexually pent up after seeing Lily get turned into Kord's plaything. She wanted a piece of that experience so she allowed him to use her as masturbation material.
I hope that there's a "turning point part 2" in the next update to directly follow up this weak turning point scene to actually bring the point home that "this is the start of Lisa's descent to corruption" but yeah, one could only hope.
For example, for the "turning point" scene, it felt meh to most people because there was so much buildup but in the end, Lisa was able to hold on. Imho, Lily's sequence of events make up for a much better formula and was the true turning point. She got sexually pent up after seeing Lily get turned into Kord's plaything. She wanted a piece of that experience so she allowed him to use her as masturbation material.
I hope that there's a "turning point part 2" in the next update to directly follow up this weak turning point scene to actually bring the point home that "this is the start of Lisa's descent to corruption" but yeah, one could only hope.
I think the pace is going nicely
The corruption go stage by stage.
Right now we are at a blowjob stage, you can probably tell what comes next.
Every stage level is something new we havent seen before, i think it all fits together good.
The corruption go stage by stage.
Right now we are at a blowjob stage, you can probably tell what comes next.
Every stage level is something new we havent seen before, i think it all fits together good.
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I think it's a shame people want to rush this. I'd understand if we got updates every 4 months or more, but that's not the case. It's pretty obvious the dev has a pace in mind and it's not like he's trying to milk it since you can see at the start of the game that Kord is just one of the routes you will be able to take, so this will last for a few years without the need to have fillers.
There wasn't new action in this update that's true, but it wasn't about that. It was to enforce the idea that Lisa doesn't want to be without Kord, and that she can stop lying to herself about it like she kept doing all those times before.
I think that's where the main disagreement is. This update was not the only update to enforce the idea that Lisa doesn't want to be without Kord. In fact. it was being built up after she allowed him to masturbate in front of her directly after she saw Lily turn into Kord's plaything (scene is titled "Lisa's Secret" in gallery). Some people argue that despite this being a turning point scene, she doesn't think much different compared to the last few updates. Sure, it's more emphasized but it definitely feels more like the scene before the turning point than an actual turning point scene.
I think people were hoping that this is the scene where Lisa allows for more corrupted stuff like first anal penetration or something based on the title but it did not deliver. It was too tame. In fact, there wasn't even a sex scene. It definitely wasn't a "this marks the start of her corruption" scene.
I think Lisa's mental corruption is going well. My issue personally was that it was a weak turning point scene considering what Lisa allowed after seeing Lisa turn into Kord's plaything. So hopefully it gets followed up with a turning point part 2 next update to make the scene stronger.
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call it like it is: the update would have been completely fine if they advanced exactly 1 (one) H scene further
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It's more about her realizing that Yuto will never satisfy her, and that's why she needs Kord. Up until now she kept telling herself that it's only until Yuto gets more confident. But now that Kord was away and she was alone with Yuto and nothing changed, maybe she can stop lying to herself.
I'm not sure why anyone would expect that yet. We haven't even gotten a blowjob yet as of v0.9. In fact, I don't think we'll get anal until after vaginal penetration and actual, proper sex.
Unless I'm mistaken, there's been very little anal interest from any character in the game, it's always been about normal sex and breeding. So while it will happen (the dev mentioned it in the past), it doesn't sound like anyone is in a hurry to do it. And Lisa also sounds like someone who'd be much less willing to do anal if she hasn't had proper sex in the first place.
ignore anyone asking for her to ratchet seventeen steps up the corruption meter overnight, that's retarded too.
just remember that this is a porn game not a soap opera, don't be shocked that people are annoyed that you updated your porn game without new porn
just remember that this is a porn game not a soap opera, don't be shocked that people are annoyed that you updated your porn game without new porn