justlooking2

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Thank you for the information and clarification. It is possible that for that reason future saves may not work; it is possible that they depend on the new Patreon version. I will let a few days pass, then I will delete these superfluous messages to leave only the first one, which is the important one.
A couple of people reported that their saves needed to be rolled back from the public 0.4, so I suspect there are other variables than just 'patreon' and the extra folder being missing as well.
I launched a new game myself right off the bat since I wanted to see if the previous pay walls worked or not as well (they do of course.)
 
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Wicks99

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I quite like the animations for this game based on what was shared (haven't played the game yet), didn't have any issues with the camera "shaking". But I do empathize some folks might find it nauseating or uncomfortable.

Any way, my take is there is no need to get personal with the developer. After all it's his game and effort and he's entitled to try and squeeze more money out of it. But from a business angle, such stunts never work, especially for a game that is quite heavily subscribed (Isekai Paradise actually has a pretty strong subscription despite its young age).

At the rate it's going as long as he stops the pay wall and thereby attract even more users to try, I wouldn't be surprised if he can garner at least 500 subs by the end of 2025. That would put the game finances easily at the top 5% of the industry. The key thing is to keep the pace on updates and steer away from cheap stunts that at most just earn some short term quick bucks.

If I eventually come around to trying this out and get a good product, wouldn't mind doing a one time payment at Itch as I don't believe in paying monthly for something that has no clear sight of update and completion timelines. But if the developer continues with this paywall policy, I might hesitate to support.
 

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I quite like the animations for this game based on what was shared (haven't played the game yet), didn't have any issues with the camera "shaking". But I do empathize some folks might find it nauseating or uncomfortable.

Any way, my take is there is no need to get personal with the developer. After all it's his game and effort and he's entitled to try and squeeze more money out of it. But from a business angle, such stunts never work, especially for a game that is quite heavily subscribed (Isekai Paradise actually has a pretty strong subscription despite its young age).

At the rate it's going as long as he stops the pay wall and thereby attract even more users to try, I wouldn't be surprised if he can garner at least 500 subs by the end of 2025. That would put the game finances easily at the top 5% of the industry. The key thing is to keep the pace on updates and steer away from cheap stunts that at most just earn some short term quick bucks.

If I eventually come around to trying this out and get a good product, wouldn't mind doing a one time payment at Itch as I don't believe in paying monthly for something that has no clear sight of update and completion timelines. But if the developer continues with this paywall policy, I might hesitate to support.
Agreed. Honestly tho, I understand what the dev is trying to do, but a better way would be to just have a separate section in the game gallery that has extra scenes for subscribers, like a patreon reward vault gallery or something, like many games have. Making branching scenes in the story blocked behind a paywall is just :sick: , and will probably make a lot of future potential subs not want to sub at all.
 
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That Rean (male hero) dude... *sigh*

First of all; he's a "foreigner" in a foreign country with different customs and laws. Sure he's allowed to be disgusted by slavery but... It's not his house, he's a guest in someone else's. Therefore he has no right to judge others from that world just because he's an idealistic fool without any sense of propriety.

Second; he's spouting bullshit about the mc without any proof, that is literally slander, defamation and character assasination. Which is illegal on Earth as well. (I assume there are laws in that world against slander, defamation etc.)

Third; He doesn't really care about those women, he just wants to get in their pants. If he really cared about those women, he would ask their opinion first. And if they want to stay with their master, who is he to say otherwise? Please just kill him off, I lost a good portion of my braincells because of this dumbass.

Last but not least; the guy claims that there is no slavery on earth but that statement is incorrect. Sure slavery is officially abolished for about 200 years but it didn't disappear, just moved from the mainstream to underground. There is still human traficking today, so that guy is ignorant as fuck and is basically a keyboard social justice warrior that got lucky to be issekai'd. In other words; He is a slandering hypocrite, that is willingly ignorant about facts and makes wild claims before proving it.

Also to abolish slavery in that world, the people of that world must want it to abolish it. If they don't want to abolish it then nothing can be done about it. Unless he wants to create a dictatorship and force the people of that world to abolish it, but that would make him even worse than to just let it happen. And even on Earth, we have thousands of years of history with slavery, it's only been 200 years, so I consider that recent history in comparison with the rest of history. That guy being triggered cause of slavery is just his "political correctness" and his ideals that he wants to shove down everyone's throat.

Sorry for the wall of text but I kinda got triggered by this dumbass xD

edit: Vega's statement; "Mr hero has a strong sense of justice..." Yeah, no. He has no sense of justice, it's just his own ego that can't handle the fact that another man is more popular than him, he's just using the slavery thing as an excuse. Blergh
 
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Wicks99

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Agreed. Honestly tho, I understand what the dev is trying to do, but a better way would be to just have a separate section in the game gallery that has extra scenes for subscribers, like a patreon reward vault gallery or something, like many games have. Making branching scenes in the story blocked behind a paywall is just :sick: , and will probably make a lot of future potential subs not want to sub at all.
Indeed the two most common differentiation models are either to have some extra scenes outside of the main LIs and/or plotline or having the public version 1 or 2 updates before the latest. The Patreon / SS business model is ultimately a mostly goodwill instead of product driven one. Benefits from subscription are more a gesture of appreciation rather than delivering additional features.

From a consumer POV, I don't think the developer is going to get many people who decide they want to make a monthly commitment just to unlock some extra scenes in the main story. There might be a small number who do a low tier subscription once-off and cancel immediately after downloading.

Whatever such small non-recurring amounts one can make from this is probably more than offset by the negative goodwill and bad aftertaste generated from people who walk off pissed after discovering midway through that the game that they played for a while is actually crippled.
 

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Hitting a weird audio bug when starting from my last save from 0.3 in 0.4 It gets a weird overlapping noise that kind of sounds like old school record skipping for lack of a better definition. Most of my older saves I can load just fine, but whenever the music changes, it introduces the bug. Very very odd.

Trying to see if I can track down the cause.

*Edit: Actually seems to happen on any save I load from the beginning through current. Something in the music playback is causing an audio bug.
*Edit 2: Confusing notes here: It seems like it might be some small loop of "sexy" sounds. I've noticed in doing some testing that even though there are 3 sliders (Music, Sounds, Voices), only Music/Voices control the audio. Sounds are played in the Music channel it seems. What's weird is this bugged sound is playing during normal conversation scenes, not sex scenes.
 
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Hitting a weird audio bug when starting from my last save from 0.3 in 0.4 It gets a weird overlapping noise that kind of sounds like old school record skipping for lack of a better definition. Most of my older saves I can load just fine, but whenever the music changes, it introduces the bug. Very very odd.

Trying to see if I can track down the cause.

*Edit: Actually seems to happen on any save I load from the beginning through current. Something in the music playback is causing an audio bug.
*Edit 2: Confusing notes here: It seems like it might be some small loop of "sexy" sounds. I've noticed in doing some testing that even though there are 3 sliders (Music, Sounds, Voices), only Music/Voices control the audio. Sounds are played in the Music channel it seems. What's weird is this bugged sound is playing during normal conversation scenes, not sex scenes.
Same

There's this annoying bug that the sex pouding sounds remains even after the scene ends.
 
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Maybe pay walling is not an appreciated move on a pirate site?

If the patreon version wasn't leaked, I would have given up on that game myself, what's the point of playing a souped down version with missing sex scenes?

Let's be honest here, even at 1$ a month, most AVNs are not worth that price considering the time they take to be finished.

Many, if not most, of the most successful ones have been going on for 4 years at this point (more and much more for some). While they may be "good games", are they REALLY worth 48$? Devs paywalling indie games, are just asking for troubles and shooting themselves in the foot.
They have to understand that if we decide the game is worth money, we'll pay for them, but they also need to understand that their products are not AAA games, and are never going to be worth as much. While their games take about just as long to be finished for the most part, both the production costs, and quality are nowhere near on the same scale, as such, expecting a sale price in the same range is lunacy at best.
paywalling in general is a scummy tactic. there are tons of devs who release public versions of their games without paywalled content.
 

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paywalling in general is a scummy tactic. there are tons of devs who release public versions of their games without paywalled content.
And those devs deserve they support who does this, without pay walling content.

Like I like the game. I am not trying to shit on anyone's work. Making a game is hard and we get that. But... Here comes the BUT....

Pay walling anything just turns people away, more than anything.

Me personally, not supporting no dev who does this.

So I appreciate the kind gentlemen who leaked the patreon version.
 

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So digging into the code, what's weird is that a) the sound doesn't seem to be a part of the background music that is played in the scenes, and b) I don't see a trigger specifically for the sex sound anywhere near when it starts up.

*Edit: Seems like it might be a looping of either insert.mp3 or squish.mp3 from the audio/sounds/ folder. I only see one loop of squish.mp3 listed in the codebase though.

*Edit 2: Definitely a glitch I can't replicate on a clean playthrough. Getting to the same scenes (but playing from the start) where it was glitched previously, now they are fine.
 
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justlooking2

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So digging into the code, what's weird is that a) the sound doesn't seem to be a part of the background music that is played in the scenes, and b) I don't see a trigger specifically for the sex sound anywhere near when it starts up.
I believe the sex sounds are part of the video animations themselves.
I suppose skipping "at the wrong time" may get a sound stuck in a loop, maybe.
 

5mithers

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Quick continuity error report.

In the beginning of the game, the main character quickly levels up to level 25 by killing the Orc Leader and continues from there.
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But in the recent update, Lina claims he's only level 22?
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So he's slowly losing levels? Or was this an error?
 

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To see if it worked I downloaded the game again using Gofile in the first post of this thread, and it works for me at least. If I see that people can't for whatever reason, I will delete my post.
Yes thats right...just downloaded it again with gofile and then the animations and renders are in and u can use URM with putting the patreon on "True" to see all exclusive scenes.
 
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ArashiNinja18

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It's really a shame that some scenes are restricted and you're forced to pay for the patreon, despite the game being up to date and on this website.
 
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