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Understandable, however I imagine we'll get a good amount of news reports from the developer since they seem to actively try and meet deadlines.
Am i the only one who feel this is a humongous step down from the nebel geister jaeger art? This feels like a cookie cutter heroine and also not particularly well drawn. Just aesthetically not super pleasing, which is disappointing since Kana looked so great and unique in the game sphere.
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I'd argue that nebel also had panels that were less well drawn. The heroine's design... yeah you're not wrong in saying it seems generic(both her designs btw the succubus one and the non succubus one), but its not bad either just not original.
I think this game has a completely different artist. The first two games (Tailed Girl and Succubus) were done by the same artist, but Nabel seems to have a similar yet diffrent style not sure if it is same as first two. This one, though, honestly looks like AI-assisted art. I’m not against AI, but dropping the original artist after gaining success thanks to them is a dick move. well i can be wrong about this but still among all of their games Succubus had best art, nabel was better game all around due to longer, and well written story with good implications. i was very very very hyped for this game as it Author was improving with every game but this this looks like downgrade, i guess its due to him trying to focus on couple diffrent games at same time, iirc he is making 3d shooter game, this one and something called BBQ Player ? which i have no idea what it that.
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BBQ has been using multiple artists from the start though... Like. It's not hard to check stuff on dlsite y'know?
As in, the Tail girl game had three artists: 佩特拉 / 永遠の24歳の社会人 / 燃气萝卜魂
The succubus game only had one of those artists: 永遠の24歳の社会人
Then Nebel had 2 artists: 永遠の24歳の社会人 and 燃气萝卜魂 making a comeback.
The Red Light district game had 2: 永遠の24歳の社会人 and A狼子 (also had AI assistance for background images)
Now this game has 鶸虫wolm.
Why not have 永遠の24歳の社会人 who was their most used artist? No one knows. Maybe they're being used for the 3D game which will have 2D CGs anyway. Maybe they hiked up their prices and BBQ couldn't afford to keep working with them. Maybe they died. We just don't know and it's pointless to speculate all that much.
Personally, I have no idea what you're seeing wrong with this artist. The completed CGs look perfectly good to me. We don't even have the latest Demo on f95. The game here is a bunch of versions behind... though at this point, it's probably better to just wait for 0.34 if anyone's gonna update the demo version, because that one supposedly adds a bunch of stuff.
I could be wrong, of course, but I think 永遠の24歳の社会人 is still active as their Fanbox is somewhat active ish, at least. That said, I admit my initial criticism was a bit harsh, so let me try again.
First, the art in this new game isn’t bad, but to me, it still feels like a downgrade from before. That’s just my personal taste, though—I’m sure some people will love this new style. The idea that the original artist might have raised their prices does make sense. Their art style was a major factor in the previous games' success, so it’s reasonable for them to ask for more. While the games have great stories and gameplay (solid 5/5 there), I’m certain a good portion of the fanbase followed them specifically for the art. I mean, the first game’s story was practically non-existent, but the art carried it.
Second (or maybe 1.5), if the artist did raise their prices and the author couldn’t afford them, then that’s still kind of on the author. He’s juggling multiple projects at once, spreading resources thin for no real reason. He could have taken a safer approach—focusing on one big project or at least one major and one smaller one. Instead, he’s trying to complete 3-4 projects at the same time, and if you count ASMRs, it’s even more. Now, if 永遠の24歳の社会人 raised their rates to some absurd level, I’d understand the switch. But I doubt an artist would do something that extreme—though, to be fair, human greed knows no bounds so cant be sure of it.
Third, this is more about the game itself, but I think my frustration comes from how mid it feels compared to Succubus and Nabel. It’s not just the art—gameplay, story, everything seems weaker. I know it’s still a demo, but I don’t see it reaching the level of the previous games due to its core design. I hope I’m wrong—God knows I want to be wrong—but my gut feeling is usually right, and that scares me.
Fourth, sorry for the long reply. I know I’m technically not in the best position to criticize since I pirate these games—I live in a country where the average wage is around $600, and after bills, you’re left with maybe $100, so buying them isn’t really an option. I would if I could, but I can’t. That probably makes me unfit to judge, but...
whatever, I guess.
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Well, for point 1, that's subjective preference. Nothing anyone can do about that. Everyone's gonna like some artists more than others. On my end, the two are around the same level, so I don't mind it too much one way or the other. Though we'll see if I keep thinking that way once there's more CGs in the game. The demo we currently have out is really basic bitch level after all...
For the next point. The main thing I'll comment on is BBQ's attitude. The guy is atypical for H-game devs, in the sense that he likes to travel and eat good food and stuff. This matters because all that stuff costs money, and the guy is trying to earn more than average. Hence all the multiple projects stuff. That said, ASMRs don't really take much effort from him directly, since most of the effort is on the voice actors. Either way, all circles that get big enough either end up working on mammoth projects, or they work on multiple projects at the same time. It pretty much always happens. Human nature and all that. Either way, some might consider him greedy, but I don't. It's not like he's trying to get rich. He's just trying to live his life in the way he enjoys.
For the third point. I dunno. Like. I feel that the combat system for this new game has a lot of potential to be interesting from what we see in the demo, but in certain aspects, it also feels like the game overall is notably easier than Nebel. So in a sense i agree with you, because it feels like it's way too easy to prevent any cheating/NTR that might be happening. By that same token, the demo we have here is way behind and it's missing a lot of tweaks that BBQ has done, so it's hard to say what it'll be like in the final game. As for the story. Dunno. I like the whole succubus transformation trope, and I like the way it's used here, including the fact that the little sis' succubus powers are genuinely dangerous and all that. I think there's plenty of potential there... But we'll see.
For the last point. I live in a post-communist shit-hole myself, and I know what you mean by low salaries when compared to the rest of the world. There's some variance depending on what kind of job you're doing exactly, but I'm familiar with average salaries being 500-600$. My own capacity to consume media vastly exceeds my ability to spend for it. That doesn't mean that we don't have a right to have opinions.
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Update on
Summary:
-Members of the development team are sick, therefore delay on work
-No update this time, next update will feature the JP0.34 and CN0.34
-Updates on priest route(new CGs)
-From version 4.0 forward the sister will be able to work at the guild
-Brothel and Casino are being worked on/improved
BBQ player updates:
-BBQ player is finished, only need to negotiate collabs with creators(will be delayed)
-Plans for new languages to be added to BBQ player
-TL should be fast since not much text
The other fps game is also being worked on, cgs are close to done
Perhaps more delay in the future.
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at last(BBQ went silent for a whole 2 weeks)Summary:
-Members of the development team are sick, therefore delay on work
-No update this time, next update will feature the JP0.34 and CN0.34
-Updates on priest route(new CGs)
-From version 4.0 forward the sister will be able to work at the guild
-Brothel and Casino are being worked on/improved
BBQ player updates:
-BBQ player is finished, only need to negotiate collabs with creators(will be delayed)
-Plans for new languages to be added to BBQ player
-TL should be fast since not much text
The other fps game is also being worked on, cgs are close to done
Perhaps more delay in the future.
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Quiet quitting is a totally dick thing to do... Especially in a situation like this.
More on topic, I guess it'll be April until we see 0.34 EN... Not that people are clamoring to get updates for this particular game.
Can't say I care about BBQ Player and its ASMR nonsense.
More on topic, I guess it'll be April until we see 0.34 EN... Not that people are clamoring to get updates for this particular game.
Can't say I care about BBQ Player and its ASMR nonsense.
what is BBQ player? So their 3 upcoming games is this, FPS game, and BBQ player? what genre/type of game is that, why does it have collab with creators? Multiple artists?
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BBQ player is not a game...
I have an old version downloaded and... its a bit like an asmr video player.
As for the collab with creator part I would assume it's to broaden BBQ player in itself since so far its pretty barren with 3 playlists, 2 from nebelgeister and 1 from priestess.
wait a moment, this is a 2d game but the sex scenes will be in 3d ig i got it right ? or just some ?
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The forum for the game we are on rn(priestess game) is a 2d game, CGs and animations are all 2d so far.
I apologize for the confusion, the 3D part was purely for BBQ player(an app that the dev has created for asmr files which are often released a bit before the actual game). I was summarizing the CI-EN post which included other unrelecant information.
The priestess game will feature 2d CGs and pixel art.