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There are 10 main love interests. There are 3 side love interests. The 3 side love interests will play significant parts of the story, and be in the MCs orbit, but will not be collared, wife, living with the MC material. This is according to Cosy, and via public posts here and Discord. If you want to see the list, click the spoiler below:

* 10 Main LI: Akari Akatsuki, Lucy, Vicky, Sarah, Catherine, Hannah, Misaki, Alison, and Rachel
* 3 Side LI: Elizabeth, Annabelle, Charlotte (a childhood friend we haven't met yet)
Ok, hold up. Did something change since the last update? Because last I checked, there are 11 main LI listed in the bios section, with Elizabeth being one of them. Unless something happend behind the scenes, I think it still holds up, doesn't it?

Edit: I downloaded the game again just to make sure, and it still shows Elizabeth in the "Main" tab


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Ok, hold up. Did something change since the last update? Because last I checked, there are 11 main LI listed in the bios section, with Elizabeth being one of them. Unless something happend behind the scenes, I think it still holds up, doesn't it?

Edit: I downloaded the game again just to make sure, and it still shows Elizabeth in the "Main" tab


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some people preferred Rachel over Elizabeth
 

HiHaHo

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some people preferred Rachel over Elizabeth
i mean the best option is both.. its easy to say considering i don't have to write or render it :KEK:
but for real, i doubt anyone would have a real issue with 1 or 2 more Mains even it will take a few weeks more work.
i can see pro's and con's for both rachel and elizabeth.

still all up to cosy though,from my experience community's meddling to much tends to pollute the waters.
 

shitass1001

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Elizabeth is a "main" li, but as Mordred said she wont be living with the MC and probably wont be getting collared or married. but that doesn't mean she wont get scenes

some people preferred Rachel over Elizabeth
I doubt the people who liked Rachel more than Elizabeth had any sway over Cosy's decision making, IIRC Cosy said he already has most of the story planned out.
 

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some people preferred Rachel over Elizabeth
Is there really? She is absolutely awful, like really really bad. I'm someone who find really really hard to hate characters in stories, at worst i just don't really care. Of the probably more than 300 avns i have played, ONLY TWO girls LI ever reached the level of bad and unlikability to make me "hate" them and to think they should be removed. She is one of them lol. To the point that i honestly don't know if i'm not gonna quit when she gonna get focus on. ( Or maybe skip her parts? but that would be weird i never skipped anything in an avn (that i like) before and it might be important for the story...)

In can understand that not everyone dislike her as much as me but that anyone even remotely wish her to be main girl is kinda mindblowing to me... espcially compared to the other girls. (ELizabeth is a good exemple here, i don't care about her, she is not my style of girl at all but i would take her any day over Rachel in a heart beat)
 
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Rachel/Elizabeth isn't an either/or - they're both LIs, and that's not gonna change. The three LIs that I have described as "associate" LIs (Elizabeth, Annabelle, and Charlotte) will still be significant characters with significant screen time and impact on the plot, but the nature of their personalities and their roles in the story mean they will be have a slightly different dynamic to the other LIs.
 

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Is there really? She is absolutely awful, like really really bad. I'm someone who find really really hard to hate characters in stories, at worst i just don't really care. Of the probably more than 300 avns i have played, ONLY TWO girls LI ever reached the level of bad and unlikability to make me "hate" them and to think they should be removed. She is one of them lol. To the point that i honestly don't know if i'm not gonna quit when she gonna get focus on. ( Or maybe skip her parts? but that would be weird i never skipped anything in an avn (that i like) before and it might be important for the story...)

In can understand that not everyone dislike her as much as me but that anyone even remotely wish her to be main girl is kinda mindblowing to me... espcially compared to the other girls. (ELizabeth is a good exemple here, i don't care about her, she is not my style of girl at all but i would take her any day over Rachel in a heart beat)
The Rachel you know in the story so far is definitely different from the Rachel that will be eventually (probably) inducted into the harem. As some have theorized, and I agree, Rachel will probably become one of the kinkiest and most obedient members of the group, but its hard to say right now.

I personally like Rachel, I find her a little bit annoying in the story (not overly so), but her inclusion has given a great many moments where the girls, especially Lucy, have had a chance to stand up for the MC and really show off the positive influence he has had on their lives. Also, her extremely negative disposition towards the MC means that once she does become loyal to him, it will make it a lot more satisfying.
 

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The Rachel you know in the story so far is definitely different from the Rachel that will be eventually (probably) inducted into the harem. As some have theorized, and I agree, Rachel will probably become one of the kinkiest and most obedient members of the group, but its hard to say right now.

I personally like Rachel, I find her a little bit annoying in the story (not overly so), but her inclusion has given a great many moments where the girls, especially Lucy, have had a chance to stand up for the MC and really show off the positive influence he has had on their lives. Also, her extremely negative disposition towards the MC means that once she does become loyal to him, it will make it a lot more satisfying.
I perfectly understand what the game is going for with her. But my dislike of her has nothing to do with her hating on the mc or being (extremely)annoying. I actually often quite like and enjoy that archetype of character. It's just her overall personality and how the game is going about it. I also feel like games need to show somehow a least a little bit of something that could be likeable to not completely alienate people from the said char... but there is really nothing here (at least to me). In most other games with char like that, i can most of the time kinda "see" or "imagine" how it's gonna evolve and get better but here i really don't see it... that would be a miracle. But, heh, maybe Cosy will pull it off...we'll see.
 

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Ok, hold up. Did something change since the last update? Because last I checked, there are 11 main LI listed in the bios section, with Elizabeth being one of them. Unless something happend behind the scenes, I think it still holds up, doesn't it?

Edit: I downloaded the game again just to make sure, and it still shows Elizabeth in the "Main" tab


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Nothing has changed per se. You are adding a word that is not stated in the UI. Main Characters, not Main Love Interests. Cosy has stated what I mentioned (not posting again for spoilers, you know what I said, and I am responding to you), and the UI is being fixed in v12, which will have the other person listed as a side over to the main page, and the person we haven't met yet, isn't listed. Cosy mentioned here about the 10 main LI and 3 associate LI, so, just because they are on the main characters page, doesn't mean they are "Main LI".
 
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I also feel like games need to show somehow a least a little bit of something that could be likeable to not completely alienate people from the said char...
I think something to keep in mind is that for people just playing the game and not actively discussing it on forums, Rachel is just a side character that provides some interesting/funny scenes. Only in recent updates will they have begun to pay her any real consideration when it became clear she was getting entangled in cafe bussiness.

For these people, Rachel is a nuisance that annoyed them in the last 2-3 hours of gameplay. The next time they think about Rachel will be the next time she shows up to annoy us and/or when Cosy begins her 'redemption arc'.

They aren't in here arguing over whether Rachel should be on the LI list. They probably couldn't name the full LI list without checking. As such, they don't spend nearly as much time thinking about her and therefore don't feel that strongly about her at all.

Basically, remember we are weird and not representive of an average player.
 

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It's really fascinating to watch people just make up canon in their heads and then argue about it like it has any basis in reality.
There is something about the types of fans you get in a game.
* The casual player: They are looking for an experience, an escape, a quick fap, whatever, then they go away.
* The niche player: They are looking for a specific kink or type of game which to get off.
* The story player: They are looking for a deep, meaningful story, which triggers their imagination.
* The fan player: They are looking to dissect every word to try and figure out what is going to happen next. This is a subset of the story player, as they get hooked by a specific story and game, and will debate endlessly.

I am more of a story player, but will play games as a casual/niche player at times to suit a mood/purpose. I try not to become too much of a fan player, but have for a few games, because of the story.
 

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There is something about the types of fans you get in a game.
* The casual player: They are looking for an experience, an escape, a quick fap, whatever, then they go away.
* The niche player: They are looking for a specific kink or type of game which to get off.
* The story player: They are looking for a deep, meaningful story, which triggers their imagination.
* The fan player: They are looking to dissect every word to try and figure out what is going to happen next. This is a subset of the story player, as they get hooked by a specific story and game, and will debate endlessly.

I am more of a story player, but will play games as a casual/niche player at times to suit a mood/purpose. I try not to become too much of a fan player, but have for a few games, because of the story.
How am I in this post 4 times? :ROFLMAO:
 

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Rachel/Elizabeth isn't an either/or - they're both LIs, and that's not gonna change. The three LIs that I have described as "associate" LIs (Elizabeth, Annabelle, and Charlotte) will still be significant characters with significant screen time and impact on the plot, but the nature of their personalities and their roles in the story mean they will be have a slightly different dynamic to the other LIs.
Hey man, you got any more of those chapters? Just one more, to take the edge off.
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Is there really? She is absolutely awful, like really really bad. I'm someone who find really really hard to hate characters in stories, at worst i just don't really care. Of the probably more than 300 avns i have played, ONLY TWO girls LI ever reached the level of bad and unlikability to make me "hate" them and to think they should be removed. She is one of them lol. To the point that i honestly don't know if i'm not gonna quit when she gonna get focus on. ( Or maybe skip her parts? but that would be weird i never skipped anything in an avn (that i like) before and it might be important for the story...)

In can understand that not everyone dislike her as much as me but that anyone even remotely wish her to be main girl is kinda mindblowing to me... espcially compared to the other girls. (ELizabeth is a good exemple here, i don't care about her, she is not my style of girl at all but i would take her any day over Rachel in a heart beat)
Oh i definitely agree. In Most Games i don’t care about the history of a LI. What i mean is, it doesn‘t matter if she was a drug Addict, Hooker or got mistreated as a Child. I give everyone a Chance.
Rachel though…. is a special case.

I just hate her from the bottom of my Heart. And it‘s only getting worse the more i see her. Every scene without her is a Blessing and every time she appears on screen i‘m instantly getting triggered. She had so many chances to show that she deserves some sort of redemption arc but for me personally, she fucked up so many times that i just wouldn‘t want to touch her. EVER. The chances of her saying we raped her or stuff like that are just not worth the risk. I don’t care if she is a Beast in bed or the kinkiest of them all. And if she‘s getting added as LI i just HAVE to skip all her content.

As a person who got falsely accused of stuff like that in the past (luckily i had witnesses to help me clear my Name) a character like her deserves a trigger warning and the Option to AT LEAST avoid her content. There isn‘t even the slightest Chance that i‘m ever going to like or accept her as Part of the group :confused:
 

Meabe37

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Option to AT LEAST avoid her content
Yeah this is kinda the problem with this game, everyone is mandatory... girls you don't care about and even the ones you really don't like. To be able to really pull it off you would need to be insanely good at it, writing i mean (i'm not saying cosy is bad by any means). But even games that can (where all the girls are imo beyond lovables, not dropping names here) don't do it and let you cut whoever you want.
 
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