Others Corruption of Champions II [v0.7.38] [Savin/Salamander Studios]

[Tsubuhaza]

"Ugh, it's not a "phase", Elthara! Gods, you wouldn't understand! This is my real self, and having a soul is SO last age, anyway... Kas and her demons are SO COOL. They're really free, they can do anything they want! I wish I was like them! Alyssa is still a stupid bitch, though."

You go meet her on the throne (because Alyssa is just as shit regardless of her sister's route) and she's blaring Good Charlotte while calling Elthara "a fuckin' buzz killin' preppie".

She slashed Kas on her arm aiming for the wrist, almost hit a tendon instead, sold off her hawk for a crow who's basically useless and wears combat boots for some reason.

 

[GokutheG]

Looked up the dream sequence for Ryn and it's literally called Etheryn dedicking, like God yes please that's all i ever wanted

And it's tied to high corruption so that should let you know the writer's opinion on having Ryn losing her penis.

I am surprised that they didn't allow her to actually grow one in addition to her penis like Arona did tho. I think she has too many variables already so that's why they don't do it. They've been cutting this game to the bare minimum for a while now.

 

[GokutheG]

Is the Drifa's wedding CG ai generated?

For all their faults the one thing I can give fen's crew credit for is supporting actual artists in their games.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

For all their faults the one thing I can give fen's crew credit for is supporting actual artists in their games.

And some of those are really good too. Hell of an effort.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

The only reasonable explanation i would accept for why Ryn only has a dick would be that they were actually a boy when they were younger but because of Alissas obsession with them she feminized Ryn a little bit and placed the cage on them

I’m pretty sure that was the original plot-line. I distinctly recall hearing it said that Etheryn’s original story beat was a prince who had been feminized by his abusive older sister, which is the state you’d find them in, but as the story progressed, I think the writers got cold feet.

One of the only remaining nods to this in the entire game was Hethia’s lines to Etheryn in the quest where you rescue Garret, which are now unused, since Garret’s quest was changed to be mandatory.

I get why they changed it, but personally, I think it’s fucking lame. There was serious potential there, but Savin pussyfooted around the risk of offending people with less-than-perfect representation of ‘muh pretty dickgurl princess’.

Honestly, that’s kinda the issue on the larger scale. Just look at corrupted Khor’Minos getting axed; I guarantee you there was an element of ‘I bit off more than I could chew when planning’, but you can’t tell me nobody winced looking at the implications.

EDIT, because I’m not done:

The question of “how did things go wrong” compared to CoC1 (you know, the thing people have argued in circles over for hundreds of pages?) becomes pretty fucking clear when you extrapolate the earlier conclusion to this.

Times changed, people’s sensibilities (and sensitivities) shifted with them, and people didn’t want the darker aspects in a porn game, even when that porn game has a brand to keep.

 

[Jbuster]

You go meet her on the throne (because Alyssa is just as shit regardless of her sister's route) and she's blaring Good Charlotte while calling Elthara "a fuckin' buzz killin' preppie".

She slashed Kas on her arm aiming for the wrist, almost hit a tendon instead, sold off her hawk for a crow who's basically useless and wears combat boots for some reason.

"Elven Queen Etheryn and her entourage dancing for Hakertown's citizens", original painting animated through magic, Savarra, year unknown



Are we having a goth/emo chick for every corrupted route?, because I would be very into it, given that we won't have "corruption bad" at any point

 

[Raptor_RXN]

I’m pretty sure that was the original plot-line. I distinctly recall hearing it said that Etheryn’s original story beat was a prince who had been feminized by his abusive older sister, which is the state you’d find them in, but as the story progressed, I think the writers got cold feet.

Soul crushingly bad if true. There are so many possibilities with the (alleged) original setup. Do you help Ryn come to terms with being a femboy and keep him as such? Do you go further and turn Ryn into a woman? Do you keep Ryn as a femboy but degrade and humiliate him (to the point that he gets mindbroken and likes it?)? Do you reverse the feminization and turn Ryn into a heroic elf that would make Tolkien go "Yeah, that's rad my dude."? Basically an expanded version of the fox from FoE.

 

[The Permanent War Economy]

Soul crushingly bad if true. There are so many possibilities with the (alleged) original setup.

I very much wish I could provide evidence beyond “trust me bro,” but it’s been years. I think it might have been from the original CoC2 design document from the Fenoxo forums.

 

[GokutheG]

Soul crushingly bad if true. There are so many possibilities with the (alleged) original setup. Do you help Ryn come to terms with being a femboy and keep him as such? Do you go further and turn Ryn into a woman? Do you keep Ryn as a femboy but degrade and humiliate him (to the point that he gets mindbroken and likes it?)? Do you reverse the feminization and turn Ryn into a heroic elf that would make Tolkien go "Yeah, that's rad my dude."? Basically an expanded version of the fox from FoE.

No that's never been the case. Yes her sister abused her in the background but she was never a boy in the drafts.

 

[Tsubuhaza]

"Elven Queen Etheryn and her entourage dancing for Hakertown's citizens", original painting animated through magic, Savarra, year unknown

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Are we having a goth/emo chick for every corrupted route?, because I would be very into it, given that we won't have "corruption bad" at any point

Sure, it's more fun than playing the game. Except for the Lesbian Knight and the Bee Girl, they'd still be irrelevant with an emo phase anyway.

 

[Jbuster]

No that's never been the case. Yes her sister abused her in the background but she was never a boy in the drafts.

I'm glad that's the case, it would kill me if they were to take the original Bridget plot from Guilty Gear about a boy forced into a role for society expectations, and having to learn how to live with his own identity, with what being a man really means for him, and twisted into the new western plot of Bridget "was trans all along", man what a waste of good ideas and development

Etheryn as she is works great, her big quest is fun too. You get to play as Conan the Destroyer destroying the evil family member and her demonic forces and now your princess sits on the throne. It's one of the most fantastic adventure thing this fantastic adventure game let you do

Pic related, my champion taking all the magical steroids and rushing toward a kitsune that looked like Takahiro (it was actually Nakano). Winter City in the background

 

[MarvintheBee]

i didnt say it wasnt asked for, i said it keeps getting made even when other content is asked for. like specifically i remember there being a bit of an uproar (here at least) when kalsyea got more shit because people wanted other stuff to get fleshed out not this random ass side character that is extremely offputting to many people.

Oh sorry guess I misunderstood you a little bit.
But yeah the prioties of the writers are definitly ass. Or rather they just wanna write their favourite fetish.
I still won't forget the state Alante was released in, compared to Kaly. Just sad. (Guess we have to wait for the futa expansion off Alante )

And the amount of time Kalysea probably took getting coded, even still to this day.
Every unique can have the "metal" flag, JUST for her. Nothing else uses it. What a waste of dev resources.
And all the extra over world events. Got made "off company hours" my ass.

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Also the first time you think you can do something cool with your uniques? Though luck, this is a futadom.
Any quest relating to those will only elevate their "power" and make you an even bigger sub. Hi Dragon Eve.
I hate it.

Find it funny that we got Kelt 0.5 basically, dom who mindbreaks you, but without any ability to fight back. GJ guys.
Keep going backwards.

 

[P3zz0]

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I wish for your better judgement to prevail.

 

[Bloep]

Find it funny that we got Kelt 0.5 basically, dom who mindbreaks you, but without any ability to fight back. GJ guys.
Keep going backwards.

I remember the main frustration with Kelt back in the day being that he was a massive dick, not that he was a dom with mind break fetish content. And since he was on the farm and had the bow/archery content, you were basically forced to interact with him in some way.
The druid isn't an immediate asshole to the PC and can be comfortably ignored. I wouldn't really equate the to. Dr. Badger in TITS is much more similar to Kelt.

 

[ChubbyFatBoy]

I remember the main frustration with Kelt back in the day being that he was a massive dick, not that he was a dom with mind break fetish content. And since he was on the farm and had the bow/archery content, you were basically forced to interact with him in some way.
The druid isn't an immediate asshole to the PC and can be comfortably ignored. I wouldn't really equate the to. Dr. Badger in TITS is much more similar to Kelt.

I liked that you could get revenge by turning him into a woman. Tying him up and force feeding stuff. Shame we can't take a page from our predecessor. I mean I'm not saying we should.... but what I am saying is. We have a proven method to solve a lot of issues. Kidnap, restraint, and forced ingestion of different alchemical ingredients. It's not even a bad way to go either! Champ has a magical dick that gives everyone a good time. Look at Brienne? It would be more cruel to not do it!

The only downside with Kelt Kelly was we couldn't go get his her wives . I mean our my wives.

 

[Ssato243]

damm savin is a soyboy bitch wish the game was a finished for the mods fuck savin

 

[Bloep]

I liked that you could get revenge by turning him into a woman. Tying him up and force feeding stuff. Shame we can't take a page from our predecessor. I mean I'm not saying we should.... but what I am saying is. We have a proven method to solve a lot of issues. Kidnap, restraint, and forced ingestion of different alchemical ingredients. It's not even a bad way to go either! Champ has a magical dick that gives everyone a good time. Look at Brienne? It would be more cruel to not do it!

The only downside with Kelt Kelly was we couldn't go get his her wives . I mean our my wives.

Taking down certain dommy npcs is pretty nice.
Probably why Sera remains one of may favourite characters between COC1/2 and TITS

 

[Christ P Bacon]

Oh sorry guess I misunderstood you a little bit.
But yeah the prioties of the writers are definitly ass. Or rather they just wanna write their favourite fetish.
I still won't forget the state Alante was released in, compared to Kaly. Just sad. (Guess we have to wait for the futa expansion off Alante )

And the amount of time Kalysea probably took getting coded, even still to this day.
Every unique can have the "metal" flag, JUST for her. Nothing else uses it. What a waste of dev resources.
And all the extra over world events. Got made "off company hours" my ass.

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Also the first time you think you can do something cool with your uniques? Though luck, this is a futadom.
Any quest relating to those will only elevate their "power" and make you an even bigger sub. Hi Dragon Eve.
I hate it.

Find it funny that we got Kelt 0.5 basically, dom who mindbreaks you, but without any ability to fight back. GJ guys.
Keep going backwards.

i like kelt, but kalysea is just not rough enough, not mysogynistic enough. too focused on blowjob, penis musk and anal. and also she's a futa, gddammit why can't we have good things in coc2

 

[Christ P Bacon]

I liked that you could get revenge by turning him into a woman. Tying him up and force feeding stuff. Shame we can't take a page from our predecessor. I mean I'm not saying we should.... but what I am saying is. We have a proven method to solve a lot of issues. Kidnap, restraint, and forced ingestion of different alchemical ingredients. It's not even a bad way to go either! Champ has a magical dick that gives everyone a good time. Look at Brienne? It would be more cruel to not do it!

The only downside with Kelt Kelly was we couldn't go get his her wives . I mean our my wives.

i heard there will be purification route for our demon kassyra which is totally not calise, really hoping there would be option to dedick her and wife her up. but knowing savin it probably won't be an option

 

[fetishgirl]

Soul crushingly bad if true. There are so many possibilities with the (alleged) original setup. Do you help Ryn come to terms with being a femboy and keep him as such? Do you go further and turn Ryn into a woman? Do you keep Ryn as a femboy but degrade and humiliate him (to the point that he gets mindbroken and likes it?)? Do you reverse the feminization and turn Ryn into a heroic elf that would make Tolkien go "Yeah, that's rad my dude."? Basically an expanded version of the fox from FoE.

Sounds similar to the Kiro quest in TiTs where if you leave Kiro too long she becomes a bimbo liked the variation personally.

Oh sorry guess I misunderstood you a little bit.
But yeah the prioties of the writers are definitly ass. Or rather they just wanna write their favourite fetish.
I still won't forget the state Alante was released in, compared to Kaly. Just sad. (Guess we have to wait for the futa expansion off Alante )

And the amount of time Kalysea probably took getting coded, even still to this day.
Every unique can have the "metal" flag, JUST for her. Nothing else uses it. What a waste of dev resources.
And all the extra over world events. Got made "off company hours" my ass.

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Also the first time you think you can do something cool with your uniques? Though luck, this is a futadom.
Any quest relating to those will only elevate their "power" and make you an even bigger sub. Hi Dragon Eve.
I hate it.

Find it funny that we got Kelt 0.5 basically, dom who mindbreaks you, but without any ability to fight back. GJ guys.
Keep going backwards.

Seems to be an ongoing problem with CoC 2 in recent years that newer characters are more fleshed out than a lot of older characters that many enjoy and wanted more content for. Alante vs Kal and Tav is a good example where Alante a character who had been around since the start of the game seemed really bare bones in content compared to Kal and Tav who are more recent characters written by Wsan. I don't know if its due to appeasing top donors on patreon or Wsan can now only write well when its content that his personal fetish.

Either way it sucks that older characters are getting shafted for newer ones and how some new characters have more content than some party members. At this point Agni and Quint should be kicked out the party for other characters does anyone actually care about these 2?