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But its not this bad this time, gab will survive otherwise nael would destroy the universe and it would be the end, riiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttt????It did feel short and of course another cliff ending I'm not going to survive.
Yes. Yes it has to be like that. No need to worry about gab, everything will be gucci. Suuuureely.
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Yeah I was thinking that too because noway Nael would leave anything left if Gab didn't survive, but still I wanted to know what she was going to do then and not wait wanted to see her tantrum
Im already wondering about that too. Gabriel told the guy who tortured him that all this pain and suffering will be nothing compared to whats coming for this guy and i dont think he was bluffing or even trying to threaten him.Yeah I was thinking that too because noway Nael would leave anything left if Gab didn't survive, but still I wanted to know what she was going to do then and not wait wanted to see her tantrum
It was more like a simple matter of fact that he is pretty aware of the terrors this guy will have to endure when Nael becomes aware of what happened.
Im really kinda curious how Nael will do that and im kinda glad its not the mc doing it as the guy would die too fast, nael has the means and dedication for a long game of pain and torture as a payback
I'm still not convinced Gabe is going to make it. A huge part of Nael's character development up to this point has centered around her learning to care for beings other than Gabe and Noel. The ultimate test of that character development is being okay without Gabe and her sister. I'm not saying that it's definitely going to happen, I'm just saying Gabe's death would bring serious depth to several characters, the MC included.
Nah.
Nothing at all pointed towards that. Nael even locks herself up because she KNOWS that she wont be able to hold back if something happens to gab. And than something happens and she breaks her own chains because she just cant let it happen.
Nael furthermore doesnt have to "learn to care for other beings", shes eternal and forces herself to not care too much for other beings as its required by her role. Her careing to much leads to problems (see gabriel), she isnt supposed to fiddle with the lifes of the mortals anymore.
She has to make the hard decisions like making dark ones infertile. Is it humane and morally right from our pov? No. But its the right decision from a ominpotent pov knowing there would be unlimited dark ones already otherwise and humanity probably extinct.
Youre a bit blinded by Noel's perception of Nael lately but Nael is playing Noel from all sides, Noel doesnt comprehend Nael yet but to be fair shes handicapped by the bond.
I feel like thats wishful thinking from your part because you want nael as a LI
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I will be the first to admit that I would personally like for Nael to be a LI. I like her because she is like a sour patch candy, sour on the outside and sweet on the inside. So, I am probably am a bit biased for that reason alone. However, putting that aside, think about really good stories you've read be they AVN or not. Great villians, struggles, sadness, tension, and the will to overcome can all be direct biproducts of bad things happening to characters that the audience has come to care about. What makes a great villian, for example, is the writers making you really care for a character and then having the villian do something horrible to them. Mediocre villians are just generic bad guys who do horrible things, but they do those things to people the audience doesn't know or care about. That's thy we all despise the Legion's goons right now, because they are hurting Gabe, a character everyone universally likes. Do you not think it would add a lot of depth to the story if Gabe did die at some point?Nah.
Nothing at all pointed towards that. Nael even locks herself up because she KNOWS that she wont be able to hold back if something happens to gab. And than something happens and she breaks her own chains because she just cant let it happen.
I feel like thats wishful thinking from your part because you want nael as a LI
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Nah on the contrary i think it would make the story shallow and less unique, all amazing girls swarming is already what we have in any other harem avn and Nael falling in love with mc after gabriel died would imo(!) entirely eradicate her whole character and turn her into an unlikeable shit LI.
I would love her as a LI too but imo we need a gabriel avn for that
And Nael is WAY TOO op to ever bond with the MC, it was already problematic how ridiciously op gabriel was but that got cleaned up by now,
So no i cant agree, imo it would only cheapen the story and nael's character
We will just have to agree to disagree then lol. I am curious though, what do you think Nael's character development is in the story if it's not learning to care for others? Noel is overcoming the feeling of not measuring up to her sister. Clara I'm almost positive will be forced to overcome her own insecurity and shyness without Eda's help because of whats happening with Ren. Emma has to overcome her fear of imperfection. The MC, Gabe, Arsa, and Eda have to deal with their past and the nature of the bond. Amy has to deal with her own death, loss of memories, and eventually the death of everyone that she will out live. Blake has to deal with her loyality issues. Cia will have to overcome her feelings of being lesser than Noel and Amy (I personally hope she ascends and becomes a Primordial). I personally would just find it odd if Nael is the only main character who has no flaw to overcome.Nah on the contrary i think it would make the story shallow and less unique, all amazing girls swarming is already what we have in any other harem avn and Nael falling in love with mc after gabriel died would imo(!) entirely eradicate her whole character and turn her into an unlikeable shit LI.
I would love her as a LI too but imo we need a gabriel avn for that
And Nael is WAY TOO op to ever bond with the MC, it was already problematic how ridiciously op gabriel was but that got cleaned up by now,
So no i cant agree, imo it would only cheapen the story and nael's character
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Nael has plenty of flaws, she just doesn't care about them unless Gab points them out and even then is usually hesitant to do anything about them. As we've seen during the whole
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*Epilepsy warning* "Hey doc? It cool if i play this porn game?" lol he says its cool
Agreed. I personally believe that is Nael's biggest flaw, the fact she cares about nothing and no one except Gabe and Noel. It's ironic when you really think about it. Nael can't stand Arsa but they are actually two sides of the same coin. Both their behavor and personality is rooted in the fact that they don't care. Nael is a god above everyone else so she is indifferent for that reason. Arsa knows that anything and anyone she comes to care for will be ripped away from her because of the bond, so why care at all.
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Nael is above all of that, we are talking about a entity which just has to snap her finger and the universe stops existing. She trancended all this stuff a long time ago already and experienced everything possible already in her life.
She lived already when her race, the dark ones, were the ruling species of the planet, her life is so incomprehensible long and everything about the dark ones - human relation is by her design.
Her being too involved in the normal parts of the story und unrestricted would simply egalize every problem (similar how it was when she was bonded to gab) way to heavily and would eradicate the scales of this avn as MC would immediatly overpower everyone else. Zeno wouldnt even be worth a simple thought anymore, every other primordial wouldnt be a problem anymore.
Dia, Ren or Tessah making troubles? Nael snaps and they fall in line, if they dont they get eradicated every 10000 years. Any other wardens? Eradicated.
Nael development comes form transcending this world - something she postponed so far and tricked the other divine beings into into thinking shes less powerful than she really is.
She has to learn to accept her new place and that she isnt supposed to meddle with the mortals anymore and i suspect shes only ready to do that when she considers Noel ready as her successor.
You realized that the whole "finding Noel Arc" (minus amy death and pregnancy) was designed by Nael like that? Everything since the first meeting of MC and Noel was designe by Nael. It was all a big play to get Nael and the MC to the point where they are now.
Her flaws are very relative in comparision to her being and a lot of things we seem to know about her turn out entirely wrong like for example her being "blind" while shes just like that because she decided to be like that. And there are reasons why she does that.
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I feel your placing way to much faith in a handful of lines we either saw right at the end of this chapter or a few other points in the story. I'll start with Nael's perception, I really don't think your right about that at all, Nael is by her own statement, by Noel's statement, by Gab's statement really bad at perceiving things. The problem is that people see what Nael did at the end of the chapter and immediately take it as "Oh guess she's just pretending to be blind", realistically though I think this is a very uninformed or rather rushed perspective. It's infinitely easier to focus on one specific thing if you know what your looking for than to take a wide view to try to find something without any prior information on it, Nael being able to view Gab's surroundings isn't really that far fetched nor is it any form of supernatural sense, let's not forget her hearing and eyesight are way better than a human's, it's really not that hard to believe that she could pick up on sounds we simply couldn't hear from the call.
All in all I feel your making a lot of presumptions based on very little evidence, I won't deny that she clearly has some plan for the MC and Noel but I also feel it's much to soon to make estimates on it.
What I will say though is I don't think that Nael and the MC will form any sort of bond or the like, something would have to seriously change in the story for that to happen and in all honesty I can't say I'd like such a change. Would feel like we're cucking Gab and that's just mean bro, Gab doesn't deserve that.