Ren'Py Club Detention [v0.0861] [Yorma86]

[Bob89rt]

I'm going to make an analogy to see if you understand the idea... Or you will be ignored by someone else... If you go to McDonalds and complain that it's not Burger King because it doesn't have the same sauce, why do you go to McDonalds? Go to Burger King... First, you waste less time, second, you won't be disappointed, and lastly, no one who likes McDonalds has to put up with your fuss. Good luck in your life, I'm not going to give you any more attention so you can keep licking your own mouth trying to be right about something that is impossible for you to be right about if you just apply a little logic. You have more than 5k games and instead of saying "next" you complain... There are constructive criticisms that are accepted... Yours is not constructive for anyone but you.

And my mother told me something when I was little:
- If you don't have anything good to say, it's better not to say anything.

It will help you in life... Try it.

What are you babbling about. It makes no sense. Every other game in these settings, every other game has more porn, content, training, corruption, management, prostitution. This is milking a premise. It by comparison hasn't delivered. Instead a very bad dating sim with cuckholdery.

I forwarded a question on expectations asking why it was like this. I have been attacked since. I am defending my position of inquiry. Why on Earth has it become this bad by any other comparison in these settings. It is because it is all over the place.

Instead of allowing my inquiry I have literal idiots making remarks, trolling me.

You're not talking about the content, you're attacking me for talking about it.

 

[balvenie1401]

Update dropping when?

0.086 dropped 4 days ago, the info is obv avaliable on his Patreon for you to see yourself.. If you're asking when it gets here the answer is as always: when someone decides to share it.

 

[Yorma86]

Holy shit. I'm gonna confess I didn't bother reading all the posts because I'm on the clock for my day job but on the point of "WHY NO HAREM TAG??", the game was originally tagged as a harem game, but wouldn't you know it, harem connoisseurs came in with pitchforks telling me it was not a proper harem game since you're pimping the girls out. Fair enough, I thought, and removed the tag. Now there's a hardcore prostitution sim enthusiast demanding the game should be marked as a harem game. Maybe we need a new tag to please both sides (prostitute harem, anyone?).

And just as I started working on Club Detention because I got frustrated by some adult games and wanted to do better (whether that's a success is a bit, uhh, debatable - look, making games is hard), fueled by his frustrations at my game, Bob, you can do the same. I promise to at least give your game a try, whenever it comes out. Though the first release version of Club Detention probably took me about 4-6 month's worth of grinding on the side before I let anyone else play it.

 

[Bob89rt]

Holy shit. I'm gonna confess I didn't bother reading all the posts because I'm on the clock for my day job but on the point of "WHY NO HAREM TAG??", the game was originally tagged as a harem game, but wouldn't you know it, harem connoisseurs came in with pitchforks telling me it was not a proper harem game since you're pimping the girls out. Fair enough, I thought, and removed the tag. Now there's a hardcore prostitution sim enthusiast demanding the game should be marked as a harem game. Maybe we need a new tag to please both sides (prostitute harem, anyone?).

And just as I started working on Club Detention because I got frustrated by some adult games and wanted to do better (whether that's a success is a bit, uhh, debatable - look, making games is hard), fueled by his frustrations at my game, Bob, you can do the same. I promise to at least give your game a try, whenever it comes out. Though the first release version of Club Detention probably took me about 4-6 month's worth of grinding on the side before I let anyone else play it.

It's not a harem game. You wouldn't be milking revenue if it was. Had been a harem game what have you defined it by. A few renders you're how many updates in and most aren't doing much. You tried to set it aside with prostitution management corruption. Instead you turned into a dating sim that is completely cucked.

It's like watching soft core paint dry with a lil bitchy jealous mc, instead of the guy on the premise, he hasn't done that much why he got the job, every scene he's trying to date and not explicitly. He wants to date everything you attached lame corruption to that does nothing.

Every scene in the club it's about the MC, and not about the premise. In the school it's also absurd he hasn't done anything that got him fired and corruption is literal date night and romance. How on earth has it got prostitution attached?

All over the place? What are its expectations. A harem game. All for the MC. A dating SIM likewise? Why did he need to be a cuckhold in a prostitution club? It makes zero sense.

 

[Yorma86]

It's not a harem game. You wouldn't be milking revenue if it was. Had been a harem game what have you defined it by. A few renders you're how many updates in and most aren't doing much. You tried to set it aside with prostitution management corruption. Instead you turned into a dating sim that is completely cucked.

It's like watching soft core paint dry with a lil bitchy jealous mc, instead of the guy on the premise, he hasn't done that much why he got the job, every scene he's trying to date and not explicitly. He wants to date everything you attached lame corruption to that does nothing.

Every scene in the club it's about the MC, and not about the premise. In the school it's also absurd he hasn't done anything that got him fired and corruption is literal date night and romance. How on earth has it got prostitution attached?

Well, you can't say I didn't try with an olive branch back there. If you insist on rambling on and on about this one issue, I'll have to ignore you as well just to preserve my sanity - sadly I will miss out on that thoroughly spot-on tagged game you'll be making.

 

[Bob89rt]

Well, you can't say I didn't try with an olive branch back there. If you insist on rambling on and on about this one issue, I'll have to ignore you as well just to preserve my sanity - sadly I will miss out on that thoroughly spot-on tagged game you'll be making.

You haven't provided an olive branch. You mocked me prior. Then you probably got pals to gangstalk, and you mocked again in the last reply.

Olive branch hasn't explained why it's a harem dating sim in a prostitution, corruption, management, game? Explain cuckhold. Make a big tag.

 

[shavone1]

Well, you can't say I didn't try with an olive branch back there. If you insist on rambling on and on about this one issue, I'll have to ignore you as well just to preserve my sanity - sadly I will miss out on that thoroughly spot-on tagged game you'll be making.

Don't waste your time with these fools. Your right to ignore them. I for one played the game because I like the screenshots not because of a game tag lol.

 

[Gio07]

Hello All,

Just a bit my opinion as I read a "heated" discussion above.
I think the quality of the renders of this game are heavenly. Also the structure of the brothel and the stat mechanisms are very promising for a brothel management / corruption game.
My feeling is that the game is still expanding on a flat basis (eg addition of date activities like theatre, addition of school stuff etc). On top seems like like we still haven't seen at least with a girl a story escalation. Eg finalise Jennifer or Hannah arc and fully corrupt them. So the two ponts above have put lot of people in blue balls which can be vexing at a some point.

In my view renders and brothel mechanism are of good quality and promising. What i would propose is add some standard lewd scenes on the club. No need for dialogue or options. Basically use the current skeleton of corruption and experience metrics and unlock standard scenes. That way on each update people can see more renders on how corruption would work.

I have seen other management games where you have your "assets" and from the first versions you already see for couple of girls where it can lead. No need to focus on the story if it's not ready yet.

But for instance you could create just couple of renders per corruption phase. Eg for dancing:

1. No corruption: Girl dancing with normal clothes (already there)
2. Corruption +: Girl dancing with more lewd clothes (already done for some girls)
3. Corruption ++: Girl fully nude
4. Corruption +++: Girl making a show, use dildo or other.

That way development wise there are going to be 2 pipelines. First with the standard renders of the brothel all it needs would be renders with no writing needed. Second could focus on developers artistic approach. That way gamers on each update will have more and more the girls revealed and provide breathers to the developer because the first pipeline would only need renders. Also will make subscription more interesting as you ll have some "reveals" per update.

I have been supporting in parteon the game for almost 2 years. Now I reduced a bit my support as I want to wait how it evolves. Still however I think there is potential but I am afraid that multi direction approach could burnout the developer and kill the game.

 

[Bob89rt]

Hello All,

Just a bit my opinion as I read a "heated" discussion above.
I think the quality of the renders of this game are heavenly. Also the structure of the brothel and the stat mechanisms are very promising for a brothel management / corruption game.
My feeling is that the game is still expanding on a flat basis (eg addition of date activities like theatre, addition of school stuff etc). On top seems like like we still haven't seen at least with a girl a story escalation. Eg finalise Jennifer or Hannah arc and fully corrupt them. So the two ponts above have put lot of people in blue balls which can be vexing at a some point.

In my view renders and brothel mechanism are of good quality and promising. What i would propose is add some standard lewd scenes on the club. No need for dialogue or options. Basically use the current skeleton of corruption and experience metrics and unlock standard scenes. That way on each update people can see more renders on how corruption would work.

I have seen other management games where you have your "assets" and from the first versions you already see for couple of girls where it can lead. No need to focus on the story if it's not ready yet.

But for instance you could create just couple of renders per corruption phase. Eg for dancing:

1. No corruption: Girl dancing with normal clothes (already there)
2. Corruption +: Girl dancing with more lewd clothes (already done for some girls)
3. Corruption ++: Girl fully nude
4. Corruption +++: Girl making a show, use dildo or other.

That way development wise there are going to be 2 pipelines. First with the standard renders of the brothel all it needs would be renders with no writing needed. Second could focus on developers artistic approach. That way gamers on each update will have more and more the girls revealed and provide breathers to the developer because the first pipeline would only need renders. Also will make subscription more interesting as you ll have some "reveals" per update.

I have been supporting in parteon the game for almost 2 years. Now I reduced a bit my support as I want to wait how it evolves. Still however I think there is potential but I am afraid that multi direction approach could burnout the developer and kill the game.

Not really he adds another room into it. The training is absurd takes forever. There's no lewdity. Any hint of lewdity in the club the mc gets jealous and stifles it. the bar. the front room. the dancing stage. There isn't enough of the club aspect. Not for what it's supposed to do. There's no discipline in school, only romance. Corruption is gained by dating. He literally apologises for playing a porno. The do almost nothing. He goes around solving their problems for affection points. Many only provide very softcore, or occasionally vanilla.

For somebody who has been rebuffed. I played the game. Club top upgraded fully, SECURITY ROOM, HOTEL, BONDAGE ROOM, every room top, literally top trained girls in highest skills, multi skills, highest ranks. They have their costumes all of them. I am utterly disappointed by it. A waste of time. Strung along every update, where the boss, says we need. It adds jack. Another room that does crap. When you get the assistant in there, Nothing. Nothing ever. A few soft core renders. IF THAT. Top trained girls have 100 skills. In everything corruption/affection/ perfomance/submission etc etc as well as french maid, stripper, brat etc. There's nothing there

I upgraded PC. Now gone. I won't return. Unless it completely revamps its shit. It hasn't for far longer

 

[Handifap]

Not really he adds another room into it. The training is absurd takes forever. There's no lewdity. Any hint of lewdity in the club the mc gets jealous and stifles it. the bar. the front room. the dancing stage. There isn't enough of the club aspect. Not for what it's supposed to do. There's no discipline in school, only romance. Corruption is gained by dating. He literally apologises for playing a porno. The do almost nothing. He goes around solving their problems for affection points. Many only provide very softcore, or occasionally vanilla.

For somebody who has been rebuffed. I played the game. Club top upgraded fully, SECURITY ROOM, HOTEL, BONDAGE ROOM, every room top, literally top trained girls in highest skills, multi skills, highest ranks. They have their costumes all of them. I am utterly disappointed by it. A waste of time. Strung along every update, where the boss, says we need. It adds jack. Another room that does crap. When you get the assistant in there, Nothing. Nothing ever. A few soft core renders. IF THAT. Top trained girls have 100 skills. In everything corruption/affection/ perfomance/submission etc etc as well as french maid, stripper, brat etc. There's nothing there

I upgraded PC. Now gone. I won't return. Unless it completely revamps its shit. It hasn't for far longer

If you have such a massive amount of hatred for this game and, apparently, its developer, might I humbly suggest that you simply unfollow this thread and go spread your vitriol somewhere else? Yes, yes, we all understand that you didn't get enough hugs as a child, and the only way you know how to get attention and feel relevant is to tear down someone else's hard work because you feel fantastically entitled to have everything done your way, but seriously...hush. Some of us actually understand that this game is still evolving and appreciate the insane amount of time and effort it takes to develop something like this, not to mention the will to carry on when there are people constantly whining about not having enough easy fap material to slake their thirst for instant, sweaty gratification in their mom's basement. Go out, meet a real, live girl (yes, they're scary, but I have faith in your ability to brave the harsh sunlight of the outside world), and try complaining to them that she's not lewd enough, she doesn't do everything the way you think she should, and don't apologize when she catches you watching porn all the time. Then please do come back and regale us with the juicy details of how it felt when she kicked your jubblies up into the back of your throat.
Cheers.

 

[Bob89rt]

If you have such a massive amount of hatred for this game and, apparently, its developer, might I humbly suggest that you simply unfollow this thread and go spread your vitriol somewhere else? Yes, yes, we all understand that you didn't get enough hugs as a child, and the only way you know how to get attention and feel relevant is to tear down someone else's hard work because you feel fantastically entitled to have everything done your way, but seriously...hush. Some of us actually understand that this game is still evolving and appreciate the insane amount of time and effort it takes to develop something like this, not to mention the will to carry on when there are people constantly whining about not having enough easy fap material to slake their thirst for instant, sweaty gratification in their mom's basement. Go out, meet a real, live girl (yes, they're scary, but I have faith in your ability to brave the harsh sunlight of the outside world), and try complaining to them that she's not lewd enough, she doesn't do everything the way you think she should, and don't apologize when she catches you watching porn all the time. Then please do come back and regale us with the juicy details of how it felt when she kicked your jubblies up into the back of your throat.
Cheers.

You don't read. You're trolling.

Everybody inquires when the tags don't meet the description. Try it. Anywhere on the planet. Tags don't meet the description. It's a fault. Huge fault. Liability. Another fault would be the premise selling something and it being something else. False advertising.

Only you're, explain this word. Explain.

I've played this game better than you have read my comment. I have 100, submission, performance, exhibition and the other skills, that high affection and corruption, 100, on most girls, many are multi role, I picked the lewd roles French maid, stripper, brat, forget the massage one Hannah and Anna mostly there. My club was levelled to top that's every room all the latest, Bondage room and Hotel. I watched every fucking scene. No fucking.

Somehow you're content with. False advertising. It's awful. It hasn't met expectations

 

[Handifap]

You don't read. You're trolling.

Everybody inquires when the tags don't meet the description. Try it. Anywhere on the planet. Tags don't meet the description. It's a fault. Huge fault. Liability. Another fault would be the premise selling something and it being something else. False advertising.

Only you're, explain this word. Explain.

I've played this game better than you have read my comment. I have 100, submission, performance, exhibition and the other skills, that high affection and corruption, 100, on most girls, many are multi role, I picked the lewd roles French maid, stripper, brat, forget the massage one Hannah and Anna mostly there. My club was levelled to top that's every room all the latest, Bondage room and Hotel. I watched every fucking scene. No fucking.

Somehow you're content with. False advertising. It's awful. It hasn't met expectations

*sigh* Okey doke, here we go. First of all,

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, as per the Cambridge dictionary is "the act of leaving an insulting message on the internet in order to annoy someone," which seems to fit your original post better, though I would personally regard it closer to

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as Oxford Reference defines it.
Yes, I know this seems like a nonsensical and asinine point of distinction, but so is everyone getting armed up over whether this game is tagged "harem" or "prostitution." Quite simply, there isn't a tag for "runs a club where the girls are escorts who will eventually be able to have sexual encounters with the clientele if the player so chooses, but oh, by the way, the MC is eventually going to be able to have sex with them and choose whether or not he's going to allow them to have other sexual partners...as soon as everyone stops whining long enough for the dev to actually build the content, both in programming and rendering." Do you see how that tag wouldn't fit at the top of the page very well?
Here's the rub (don't pardon the pun): the direction of this game allows for both prostitution and harem possibilities with a mix in between. It's all up to the player. If anything, you should be arguing that the content development hasn't progressed far enough along to include either tag, and we can all go relax and have a nice cup of STFU for the time being.
And yes, I understand that you're a little bitter about all the time you spent trying to fully complete a game that isn't complete (brilliant). Suck it up and go spend your time doing something more personally fulfilling for you like pissing in your neighbor's mailbox until the game is in a state that you approve of.

 

[Bob89rt]

*sigh* Okey doke, here we go. First of all,

You must be registered to see the links

, as per the Cambridge dictionary is "the act of leaving an insulting message on the internet in order to annoy someone," which seems to fit your original post better, though I would personally regard it closer to

You must be registered to see the links

as Oxford Reference defines it.
Yes, I know this seems like a nonsensical and asinine point of distinction, but so is everyone getting armed up over whether this game is tagged "harem" or "prostitution." Quite simply, there isn't a tag for "runs a club where the girls are escorts who will eventually be able to have sexual encounters with the clientele if the player so chooses, but oh, by the way, the MC is eventually going to be able to have sex with them and choose whether or not he's going to allow them to have other sexual partners...as soon as everyone stops whining long enough for the dev to actually build the content, both in programming and rendering." Do you see how that tag wouldn't fit at the top of the page very well?
Here's the rub (don't pardon the pun): the direction of this game allows for both prostitution and harem possibilities with a mix in between. It's all up to the player. If anything, you should be arguing that the content development hasn't progressed far enough along to include either tag, and we can all go relax and have a nice cup of STFU for the time being.
And yes, I understand that you're a little bitter about all the time you spent trying to fully complete a game that isn't complete (brilliant). Suck it up and go spend your time doing something more personally fulfilling for you like pissing in your neighbor's mailbox until the game is in a state that you approve of.

Exactly what you're doing. You're trolling a line of inquiry. You cannot leave my comment alone. You're trolling it. A valid line of inquiry. I played the game. You responded to me. read the shit you typed to me. It has nothing to do with the content. It's a personal attack.

 

[Handifap]

Exactly what you're doing. You're trolling a line of inquiry. You cannot leave my comment alone. You're trolling it. A valid line of inquiry. I played the game. You responded to me. read the shit you typed to me. It has nothing to do with the content. It's a personal attack.

I...wait wait wait...did you only read the first paragraph I responded with, and then get so butt-hurt that you couldn't help but hash out a reply before reading the rest of the response which was about the fucking content? I literally explained why the prostitution/harem tag argument needs to be rethought, and also the likeliest reason for there not being all of the content you're so uppity about not being in the game (yet). You call the things you've written a "line of inquiry," but all you've been doing is attacking and accusing the dev of "false advertising" for using what limited tags were available and then changing them at players' request when people started bitching. Beyond that, all you've done is essentially complain that the game isn't complete and you don't personally like the mechanics of the game. Cool. Don't play it. Sounds like an easy solution, right? It literally takes absolutely zero effort on your side, the rest of us don't need to read your whiny tripe, and we can all get on with our lives.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

What i would propose is add some standard lewd scenes on the club. No need for dialogue or options. Basically use the current skeleton of corruption and experience metrics and unlock standard scenes. That way on each update people can see more renders on how corruption would work.

I have seen other management games where you have your "assets" and from the first versions you already see for couple of girls where it can lead. No need to focus on the story if it's not ready yet.

But for instance you could create just couple of renders per corruption phase. Eg for dancing:

1. No corruption: Girl dancing with normal clothes (already there)
2. Corruption +: Girl dancing with more lewd clothes (already done for some girls)
3. Corruption ++: Girl fully nude
4. Corruption +++: Girl making a show, use dildo or other.

I have to STRONGLY disagree on this approach. One of the reason I'm playing this game is that no 2 girls has the same path, except for a few very basis tasks being hostesses etc. I HATE games, where when you have played 1 girl, you know what all the other girls will do, and you know the renders too.

and provide breathers to the developer because the first pipeline would only need renders.

Well. It won't work, because renders is often the most time consuming part of developing a new release, hence why there are so many places in this game, where you have long dialogs with just 1 supporting render.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

I don't know if troll is the right way to describe him.

He is a troll, because no matter what you write to him, he will disagree with you, just to have a reason for yet another pointless post.

 

[MasterGamer1234567890]

If you're asking when it gets here the answer is as always: when someone decides to share it.

Not in this case. The dev is releasing the game for public access himself, and he gave an ETA in a post here about a week ago.

 

[Yorma86]

I...wait wait wait...did you only read the first paragraph I responded with, and then get so butt-hurt that you couldn't help but hash out a reply before reading the rest of the response which was about the fucking content? I literally explained why the prostitution/harem tag argument needs to be rethought, and also the likeliest reason for there not being all of the content you're so uppity about not being in the game (yet). You call the things you've written a "line of inquiry," but all you've been doing is attacking and accusing the dev of "false advertising" for using what limited tags were available and then changing them at players' request when people started bitching. Beyond that, all you've done is essentially complain that the game isn't complete and you don't personally like the mechanics of the game. Cool. Don't play it. Sounds like an easy solution, right? It literally takes absolutely zero effort on your side, the rest of us don't need to read your whiny tripe, and we can all get on with our lives.

I appreciate the effort, but I think it's best to not engage and just ignore this person (I already have and can't really see what he's saying). He is not really interested in hearing anyone out and instead just wants an outlet for his frustrations.

 

[balvenie1401]

Not in this case. The dev is releasing the game for public access himself, and he gave an ETA in a post here about a week ago.

You are aware that his patreons are free to leak it whenever they feel, right? Most games hit the forum before their official public release.

 

[Yorma86]

You are aware that his patreons are free to leak it whenever they feel, right? Most games hit the forum before their official public release.

Well, those leaked versions will not hit this thread at least. It will probably leak somewhere, at least for translators.