You are right! Must have miss clicked somewhere. Now when checking the same thing but for all games on the site, it is around 57% that are straight, and 60% that are straight which were released within 1 year.
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Already did this one, too. I was going to edit my previous post, but you replied before I did.
Date limit: <365 days (within the last year)
Tags included: <all>
Tags excluded: <none>
Results: 6,294 titles (210 pages using the default 30/page)
This means that more than 76% of all game threads updated/created on F95 in the last year were "male protagonist" games.
More than 60% (3,806/6,294) of all game threads updated/created on F95 in the last year were tagged in such a way to be considered straight "male protagonist" games using your definition.
So I doubt players looking for straight "male protagonist" content have much to worry about if they use your tagging to define.
3,806 titles - even if someone played a different title each day, it would take them more than 10 years to complete. By then there would be thousands more to choose from plus the updates to those original 3,806 titles.
It's still pretty bad though, only 60% within a year (no tags vs incl. male protag excl. gay, futa/trans, futa/trans protag). I feel like a larger group (maybe 80% or more) of users prefer straight games, but non straight games are almost as prevalent.
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What you "feel" and what may actually be the case are two different things.
One should also consider that the market bears what consumers desire beyond the data we can find.
As such, here comes the wall... (c3p0 and morphnet are just a couple who love when I pull out my datasets).
You are making various assumptions to your come to your conclusion instead of considering the applicable data.
First, you are assuming the percentage of users on this site who identify as "male." While most likely not 100% accurate, Similarweb estimates that 14% of the traffic is "female."
Heck, if 86% are male, you are now assuming that 93% of them are 100% heterosexual.
Your assumption on sexual orientation is in error. In a 2021 Ipsos survey across 27 countries, 70% said they were only attracted to the "opposite sex" (71% of males and 68% of females, across over 19,000 that took the survey).
Finally, you are assuming that people who are heterosexual will only play what you consider are strictly "straight" adult games. However, one of the problems with surveys is that there is a thing called "
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" - where even in anonymous surveys, some respondents will answer what they consider is the more socially acceptable answer - even if that is not the truth. Also, consumers of porn are not too uncommonly interested in what is normally verbotten/forbidden in their own sexuality - and a not-so-insignificant number will consider alternative content at times. Hell, even people who identify as asexual enjoy porn and adult games.Even if we use the numbers presented above - we could consider that if the percentage of all games updated/created in the past year are "straight" games per your definition are similar to the 70% (margin of error is about 4% - similar to 66%-74% or close to it) who considered themselves only attracted to the opposite sex - then this would mean that the content of games similarly match the players who come to this site.
Of the "male protagonist" content- straight content as defined by you is 80% of all the updates in the past year. Non-straight content of "male protagonist" games as defined by you is 20%, which is no where near as prevalent.
To look further:
Date limit: <365 days (within the last year)
Tags included: male protagonist, female protagonist <using "OR" function>
Tags excluded: <none>
Results: 5,663 titles (199 pages using the default 30/page)
Of those 5,663 titles, 70% (3,998 - see below) would have what you consider "straight" content only. Not even a single scene that contains gay content, lesbian content, or futa/trans content.
Continuing:
Date limit: <365 days (within the last year)
Tags included: male protagonist, female protagonist <using "OR" function>
Tags excluded: gay, lesbian, futa/trans, futa/trans protagonist
Results: 3,998 titles (134 pages using the default 30/page)
3,998 is more than 63% - that's nearly 2/3rds - of the 6,294 titles with updated/created content listed on F95 in the last year that would be considered 100% straight content based upon your definition (not even a single scene, not even if it is optional, not even if it is completely avoidable). I know of several titles off the top of my head where it gets the gay tag simply because of one avoidable, optional scene.
63% is pretty darn close to that 66%-74% margin. Particularly when one considers fluctuations from day to day, week to week, some games have very long update cycles, and those games with optional/avoidable content. Based upon on the data we have, one could be nearly sure to say that 63% is not significantly different than 66%.
** As for your assertion of prevalence. **
Less than 37% is not as prevalent as more than 63%. It's not even close - it would need to be more like 46%/54% to even start considering there is some comparison of prevalence (<10%) -- here we're talking greater than 26% separate the two.
** looking at the original percentages **
More than 60% (3,806/6,294) of all game threads updated/created on F95 in the last year were tagged in such a way to be considered straight "male protagonist" games using your definition.
If we take 71% (percentage of males who identify as only attracted to the opposite sex, not just mostly, but only) of 86% (percentage of male visitors estimated to f95zone), the result is: 61%
Compare 60% to 61% (the actual difference is less that 6/10ths of a percent).
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I must acknowledge you do that a lot better than I do. Also, I must confess, I simple care not much enough to pull all that data in a post, as I often try to use my time for other things, than what I often think as flogging a dead horse.
Also I've been suprised that this isn't the first time I visit the thread and, as always, was nice reading the data you put together.
Of course, the assumption from Similarweb will come with its own error range, as you have written. Do they declare how much they think is they error?
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Beside what Count Morado wrote, this assumes female protagonist games can't be straight. Even though most of those are obviously made for straight guys.
Hell, I think even most futa fans are straight men, but people who're allergic to futa are mentally unable of processing this because of their own fixation with their genital preferences.
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No, but they do collect their data from a variety of sources:
But yes - GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) is always a worry. Though, 14% wouldn't be too far off. When you look at the data on what percentage of women consume porn (men are 4x more likely to report using porn in a previous month than women), percentage of women who game (more than just casual mobile games - of which more than 30%, with about a quarter considering themselves a core gamer ), etc.
The data lines up pretty decently.
Spitting truth.Beside what Count Morado wrote, this assumes female protagonist games can't be straight. Even though most of those are obviously made for straight guys.
Hell, I think even most futa fans are straight men, but people who're allergic to futa are mentally unable of processing this because of their own fixation with their genital preferences.
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It's more than just the datasets though, it's also the ease at which the information can be read and (hopefully) understood with the layout of said information. Also props to you for using his "preferences" in there.
Can you point to or link sources that backup "(maybe 80% or more) of users prefer straight games"?
What percent would you say out of that 80% apply your rigid search criteria?
Also none of your replies to this thread show you are open to games where the excluded tags content is optional, this means that this is a problem of your own making. Come Home has both the gay and futa/trans tags but click a couple of portraits and the only penis you ever need to see is your own (MC's), you are missing out on many straight (using your criteria) games because of tags....
There are other alternatives if you are unwilling to change you search habits,
You could make requests for games fitting your tastes
https://f95zone.to/forums/game-requests.3/
You could get software from here and download untranslated games and translate them as you play
https://f95zone.to/threads/is-there-any-translation-extension-that-translates-real-time.220273/
https://f95zone.to/threads/a-better...-guide-to-translating-with-the-machine.62067/
You could get games yourself and submitted a translation request
https://f95zone.to/forums/request.119/
etc. etc.
Sometimes opening a complaint thread for a problem of your own making may seem like the easiest thing to do but giving it some time and thought, I'm sure you will realize that there are many far more rewarding options available in the future or even the present....
Good post, personally I don't consider a female protag game to be straight unless it is female x male and you're a girl (I realize that most of these games are created for a male audience though), but it doesn't affect the result in your post that much.
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I think it's different. When you are playing a game with a female protag, I feel like you are role playing as a woman in a sexual setting (which is not straight imo), but when you are watching two girls in like an adult video you are not role playing as one of the women in that video.
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Not everyone self-inserts, and you shouldn't assume as such. Anyway, you do you, but don't assume everyone does.
I'm sure there are also those that self-insert in male-protag games, but don't in fem-protag games. They play them for different reasons. (I'm someone who never self-inserts,)
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This. Women gamers are constantly complaining about the lack of a female protagonist in AAA games, especially with straight/lesbian/bisexual romances in them or erotic/porn games with feminine gaze. I got tired bickering with them that men developers don't care what women players want. If we want more fmc games and romance/18+ content then our only chance are women devs. Being a girl gamer sucks.Beside what Count Morado wrote, this assumes female protagonist games can't be straight. Even though most of those are obviously made for straight guys.
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Do you likeBeside what Count Morado wrote, this assumes female protagonist games can't be straight. Even though most of those are obviously made for straight guys.
Hell, I think even most futa fans are straight men, but people who're allergic to futa are mentally unable of processing this because of their own fixation with their genital preferences.
futa and futa fans?
what are your
personal recommendations?
Anecdotal, but every woman in my discord server prefers more hardcore stuff. Women be freaky too.
idk but dont believe him just watch...