Ntr is just an advanced rape ?
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no, in ntr the woman chooses the bully over you. if the bully rapes her there's no jealousy because it wasn't her choice. no jealousy no ntr.
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well you're wrong. it's the definition.
"Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]"
Not every single NTR has Rape. There are plenty of NTR content that does not use Rape as a crutch. NTR is basically a corruption with a deeper psychological/emotional grasp with narratives from both corrupted female/s and those stolen from, and tropes from the NTR guy to top it off.
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Netorare with rape requires the raped girl to cave to the sexual pleasure of it and eventually choose the rapist over her BF. That's where the jealousy part comes in.
Edit: If you don't have the LI cave to the pleasure of it then it's just a traumatized girl for the MC to support (or not if the dev is one of those). Rape NTR is one of my insta-deletes though so, grain of salt here.
Edit: If you don't have the LI cave to the pleasure of it then it's just a traumatized girl for the MC to support (or not if the dev is one of those). Rape NTR is one of my insta-deletes though so, grain of salt here.
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Apart from the FACT that ntr involves / covers three distinct types of play / story / kinks - fetishes
Apart from the FACT that in many netori games rape isn't an option to steal an NPC's LI for yourself
Apart from the FACT that in many netorase games the MC directly convinces their LI to sleep with others or indirectly supports it
Apart from all that there is also the case that there are MANY netorare games where the MC just takes too long to do anything and the LI willingly goes off and sleeps with others...
So no, it's not and you are wrong....
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It doesn't have to be a bully, it just happens to be some other guy, I get why you think bully, the fetish is almost married to corruption, but you can create NTR where the woman picks a man over the protagonist who doesn't just mind control her with his dick, but is also kind and loving.
It's not necessarily a bully, but NTR did not originally just mean cheating. It is specifically about someone who genuinely loves you being "broken" or "stolen" by pleasure you can't give.
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Best description I've seen was a blog by some manga writer years ago that called it "destruction of something beautiful".
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Rape NTR is rape; consensual NTR is consensual. The two concepts are discrete.
I will disagree with tanstaafl here. The girl does not need to cave to the sexual pleasures of it. The only jealousy required is on behalf of the protagonist. A girl is inherently defiled when another guy has sex with her and it has nothing to do with her perceived pleasure.
If I uploaded a game where you play alongside your female best friend for 3 hours and she is suddenly brutally raped by your enemies, and did not tag it as NTR, the entire forum would shove pitchforks down my throat. Because it is NTR, regardless of whether the girl enjoyed it
I will disagree with tanstaafl here. The girl does not need to cave to the sexual pleasures of it. The only jealousy required is on behalf of the protagonist. A girl is inherently defiled when another guy has sex with her and it has nothing to do with her perceived pleasure.
If I uploaded a game where you play alongside your female best friend for 3 hours and she is suddenly brutally raped by your enemies, and did not tag it as NTR, the entire forum would shove pitchforks down my throat. Because it is NTR, regardless of whether the girl enjoyed it
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Honestly, to be considered netorare there has to be destruction of something pure or good or corruption of something pure or good in regards to the protagonist. And if the rape/cheating is non-consensual from beginning to end, the only thing that can destroy or corrupt that something good is the protagonists insecurity. Thus, as I said, most normal people would see it as just a trauma dump and not netorare.
The adult visual novel database handles this by calling it Netorare type C, which is a decent enough way to distinguish what you are getting into with the trope. Type A being when the girl was a willing participant from beginning to end and type B is the girl being raped/forced but growing to like it.
Edit: Ugh, I've had to edit this like 12 times. I really shouldn't post on forums directly after naps.
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Very informative, thanks! I was aware of the consent/non-consent distinction but always assumed types B and C were the same thing, good to see the three-part distinction